From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 05:27:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA24260 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 05:27:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from monsoon.dial.pipex.net (monsoon.dial.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id FAA24256 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 05:27:46 -0400 Message-Id: <199807010927.FAA24256@esl.eng.ohio-state.edu> Received: (qmail 13786 invoked from network); 1 Jul 1998 09:27:46 -0000 Received: from usero209.uk.uudial.com (HELO julian) (193.149.87.225) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 1 Jul 1998 09:27:46 -0000 From: "Georg Faustmann" To: Subject: Re: Re:ECU files 2D 3D Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:27:06 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu There's some demo software at the Racelogic site that you can display maps in 3D, check out www.racelogic.co.uk and download the demo software. Georg From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 06:10:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA24630 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 06:10:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: (from jsg@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA24621 for diy_efi; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 06:10:01 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 06:10:01 -0400 From: John S Gwynne Message-Id: <199807011010.GAA24621@esl.eng.ohio-state.edu> To: diy_efi@esl.eng.ohio-state.edu Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: [admin] List services (automated monthly post) This message is post monthly as a reminder of the available list services. For help: Send "help" to Majordomo@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu. 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John From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 06:11:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA24663 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 06:11:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA24659 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 06:11:20 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12476 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:21:47 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA22456 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:11:58 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:12:08 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 12:12:07 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 06:21:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA24895 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 06:21:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA24886 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 06:21:17 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12496 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:31:43 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA22505 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:21:55 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:22:04 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 12:22:04 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 06:21:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA24893 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 06:21:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA24882 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 06:21:15 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12492 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:31:42 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA22500 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:21:53 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:22:03 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 12:22:03 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 06:31:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA25175 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 06:31:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA25167 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 06:31:16 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12500 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:41:43 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA22535 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:31:53 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:32:03 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 12:32:02 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 06:31:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA25176 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 06:31:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA25168 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 06:31:16 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12504 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:41:43 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA22541 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:31:54 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:32:04 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 12:32:03 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 06:41:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA25323 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 06:41:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA25316 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 06:41:18 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12517 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:51:45 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA22593 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:41:56 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:42:06 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 12:42:05 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 06:41:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA25324 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 06:41:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA25315 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 06:41:18 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12513 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:51:45 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA22588 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:41:55 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:42:05 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 12:42:05 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 07:01:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA25736 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:01:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA25728 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:01:25 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12571 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:11:52 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA22712 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:02:04 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:02:13 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 13:02:13 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 07:01:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA25735 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:01:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA25727 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:01:25 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12567 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:11:51 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA22707 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:02:03 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:02:12 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 13:02:12 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. Überprüfen Sie die korrekte Schreibweise. Your email could not be delievered because the receipient petis unknown. Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 07:03:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA25793 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:03:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA25786 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:03:15 -0400 Received: from malinda ([12.69.67.50]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with ESMTP id <19980701110300.CETY10210@malinda> for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 11:03:00 +0000 Message-ID: <359A12DD.16E729B0@worldnet.att.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 06:43:42 -0400 From: Jason Weir X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: Scanner problems X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <01bda4a4$41425560$59198fd1@nacelp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Bruce Plecan wrote: > 10 hg, and 18K/Pa??.. I don't know what ya mean. 18 inches.... -- Jason Weir - 88 YJ - 258 / Howell TBI 145K and counting Fayetteville, North Carolina JTW Web pages at http://home.att.net/~jweir mailto:jweir@worldnet.att.net From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 07:06:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA25895 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:06:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from sparticus.bright.net (sparticus.bright.net [205.212.123.14]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA25891 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:06:08 -0400 Received: from nacelp (dark-cas1-cs-16.dial.bright.net [209.143.25.34]) by sparticus.bright.net (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.FNG_Build) with SMTP id HAA08561 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:04:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bruce Plecan" To: Subject: Re: Northstar equipment Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:08:19 -0400 Message-ID: <01bda4e0$8d86e760$22198fd1@nacelp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu -----Original Message----- From: TBK Subject: Re: Northstar equipment Wouldn't the engine ecm be a listener rather than a talker as far as being on a bus line?. That is using the 4 others as "sensors" to react to?.. Just curious if that would be an actuate statement. Cheers Bruce >My 3800SC ECM was linked with 5 other boxes in the donor car (Bonne). When I >put it in the Ciera, I used only the ECM and it works fine and doesn't >complain. Looks like they don't ping each other. > >TK >-----Original Message----- >From: Jennifer and Brock Fraser >To: diy_efi@esl.eng.ohio-state.edu >Date: Tuesday, June 30, 1998 9:54 PM >Subject: Northstar equipment > > >> >>I've seen a lot of talk of people using Northstar engines for engine swaps >>in vehicles like Fiero's and such. I've also seen some rumblings about >>converting these engines to carb(s) to avoid dealing with the injection >>system. >> >>For a guy that wants to purchase a complete Northstar control system (ECM, >>sensors, ignition parts) does anybody have any leads on where to buy this >>as "take-off" or possibly unwanted parts? >> >>I know that the Northstar engine ECM is networked with the other on-board >>controllers. Does anybody know if the engine controller will function as a >>"lone box" without it's other box-friends to "talk to"? In what control >>trim (spark, fuel systems) are people using these engines? >> >>Thanks, >>Brock >> > > From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 07:07:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA25978 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:07:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from gull.dockside.co.za (gull.dockside.co.za [196.13.249.8]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA25974 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:07:29 -0400 Received: from gateway.ccii.net (root@ccii.dockside.co.za [196.25.199.201]) by gull.dockside.co.za (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA25679 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:07:23 +0200 (SAT) Received: from ricebox (ricebox.ccii.net [192.168.1.20]) by gateway.ccii.net (8.7.6/8.7.1) with SMTP id NAA24736 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:18:13 +0200 Message-Id: <199807011118.NAA24736@gateway.ccii.net> X-Sender: wrm@192.168.0.1 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 12:59:15 +0200 To: diy_efi@esl.eng.ohio-state.edu From: wrm@ccii.co.za (Wouter de Waal) Subject: *way* off topic - chassis design Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu I know this is *way* off topic, but I also know that at least one of you out there will be able to answer this one: Where do I find info on designing a chassis for a mid-engined car in the Porsche 914 power, weight (and hopefully handling) class? Thanks Wouter From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 07:09:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA26000 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:09:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from sparticus.bright.net (sparticus.bright.net [205.212.123.14]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA25996 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:09:36 -0400 Received: from nacelp (dark-cas1-cs-16.dial.bright.net [209.143.25.34]) by sparticus.bright.net (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.FNG_Build) with SMTP id HAA09204 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:07:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bruce Plecan" To: Subject: Re: Northstar equipment Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:11:47 -0400 Message-ID: <01bda4e1$09e5e4a0$22198fd1@nacelp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer and Brock Fraser Subject: Northstar equipment > >I've seen a lot of talk of people using Northstar engines for engine swaps >in vehicles like Fiero's and such. I've also seen some rumblings about >converting these engines to carb(s) to avoid dealing with the injection >system. I've seen carb manifolds for the late vettes, but nothing even in the works on Northstar's > >For a guy that wants to purchase a complete Northstar control system (ECM, >sensors, ignition parts) does anybody have any leads on where to buy this >as "take-off" or possibly unwanted parts? I think I've seen them in the classified section of Autoweek. Also, good for finding the lastest vette/cam engine/trans. > >I know that the Northstar engine ECM is networked with the other on-board >controllers. Does anybody know if the engine controller will function as a >"lone box" without it's other box-friends to "talk to"? In what control >trim (spark, fuel systems) are people using these engines? > >Thanks, >Brock > From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 07:11:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA26033 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:11:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA26026 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:11:31 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12618 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:21:58 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA22767 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:12:09 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:12:19 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 13:12:18 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 07:16:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA26157 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:16:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA26153 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:16:06 -0400 Received: from malinda ([12.69.67.50]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with ESMTP id <19980701111536.CKEW10210@malinda> for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 11:15:36 +0000 Message-ID: <359A15D2.6014FD5C@worldnet.att.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 06:56:18 -0400 From: Jason Weir X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: Knock Sensor Location (Was: Scanner problems) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <3.0.5.32.19980630222817.007de9f0@pophost.bcit.bc.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu peter paul fenske wrote: > Hi Jason > > Sounds like the sensor is in too sensitive a spot > Try using a bunch of teflon tape and don't screw it > in so tightly. Also move its location. > Block drain hole is used. The bellhousing is > sometimes too sensitive Its mounted to the intake manifold where the stock Jeep sensor was located, I will have to tap a new hole in the block near where GM would have put it. Is there a method to placement or is it rocket science? I think that bruce might have hit it on the head when he suggested a new BBC because I thought that the knock counts went away when I disconnected the sensor but they didn't..... I still get knock counts with the sensor unhooked... Jason -- Jason Weir - 88 YJ - 258 / Howell TBI 145K and counting Fayetteville, North Carolina JTW Web pages at http://home.att.net/~jweir mailto:jweir@worldnet.att.net From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 07:19:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA26271 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:19:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA26267 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:19:36 -0400 Received: from malinda ([12.69.67.50]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with ESMTP id <19980701111934.CLSS10210@malinda> for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 11:19:34 +0000 Message-ID: <359A16C0.AC47EC2D@worldnet.att.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 07:00:16 -0400 From: Jason Weir X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: Scanner problems X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu T Hergen wrote: > My '92 4.3L vin W (as opposed to vin Z, the one without the balance > shaft) > has two knock sensors wired in parallel. There are different flavors > of > the 4.3L vin W that require different calibrations. One service note > states explicity (quoting from bulletin no. 23-61-11, referring to the > > flavors of vin W 4.3L motors) "Without the correct calibration > MEM-CAL, > the engine will detonate." Of the two vin W 4.3L motors I know about, > one > has needle bearing (early motors) and the other has sleeve bearings. > The > needle bearings are more noisy resulting in the need for different > knock > calibrations, I think. > > The knock sensor locations for the vin W for more recent motors have > changed as compared to my '92 motor. This will probably affect the > knock > sensitivity (and required "calibration"). > > This info doesn't fix your problem, but it may help you figure out > what > to look at. > > Tom I have a 91 system and the scanner doesnt like W for an engine code in 91 so hopefully that elliminates that possability but I'll check it out anyways... thanks Jason -- Jason Weir - 88 YJ - 258 / Howell TBI 145K and counting Fayetteville, North Carolina JTW Web pages at http://home.att.net/~jweir mailto:jweir@worldnet.att.net From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 07:21:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA26304 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:21:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA26297 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:21:20 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12658 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:31:47 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA22832 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:21:58 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:22:08 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 13:22:07 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 07:21:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA26308 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:21:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA26298 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:21:20 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12662 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:31:48 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA22837 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:21:59 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:22:09 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 13:22:08 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 07:31:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA26674 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:31:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA26661 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:31:27 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12734 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:41:52 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA22955 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:32:03 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:32:12 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 13:32:12 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 07:40:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA26944 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:40:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from sparticus.bright.net (sparticus.bright.net [205.212.123.14]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA26940 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:40:12 -0400 Received: from nacelp (dark-cas1-cs-16.dial.bright.net [209.143.25.34]) by sparticus.bright.net (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.FNG_Build) with SMTP id HAA15526 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:38:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bruce Plecan" To: Subject: Re: Scanner problems Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:42:22 -0400 Message-ID: <01bda4e5$4fa632c0$22198fd1@nacelp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu -----Original Message----- From: Jason Weir Subject: Re: Scanner problems >Bruce Plecan wrote: > >> 10 hg, and 18K/Pa??.. I don't know what ya mean. > >18 inches.... > That doesn't seem to make any sense. I wouldn't venture a quess why that could, happen. Maybe a calibration thing from Howell for not running EST?. Geez, that is strange. Bruce >Jason Weir - 88 YJ - 258 / Howell TBI 145K and counting >Fayetteville, North Carolina >JTW Web pages at http://home.att.net/~jweir >mailto:jweir@worldnet.att.net > > > From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 07:41:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA26976 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:41:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA26967 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:41:15 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12763 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:51:43 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA23009 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:41:55 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:42:04 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 13:42:04 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 07:41:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA27030 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:41:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA27019 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:41:24 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12783 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:51:51 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA23036 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:42:02 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:42:11 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 13:42:11 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 07:47:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA27215 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:47:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA27210 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:47:32 -0400 Received: from baileyte.pax (207-172-209-99.s99.tnt1.nrf.erols.com [207.172.209.99]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA01735; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:47:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <359A212E.7B39@smtp.erols.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 07:44:46 -0400 From: Nico Over Organization: none X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu CC: diy_efi@esl.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: Northstar equipment References: <199807010436.XAA01821@mxserver.forbin.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Jennifer and Brock Fraser wrote: > > I've seen a lot of talk of people using Northstar engines for engine swaps > in vehicles like Fiero's and such. I've also seen some rumblings about > converting these engines to carb(s) to avoid dealing with the injection > system. > > For a guy that wants to purchase a complete Northstar control system (ECM, > sensors, ignition parts) does anybody have any leads on where to buy this > as "take-off" or possibly unwanted parts? > > I know that the Northstar engine ECM is networked with the other on-board > controllers. Does anybody know if the engine controller will function as a > "lone box" without it's other box-friends to "talk to"? In what control > trim (spark, fuel systems) are people using these engines? > > Thanks, > Brock Brock, try Southern Performance Systems in Atlanta 770--416-7649, e-mail sps350@aol.com. They advertise in Street Rodder Magazine as having complete Nothstar engines/trannies. I have never dealt with them so can't give you any qualitative assessment. Nico Over From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 07:47:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA27209 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:47:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA27204 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:47:31 -0400 Received: from baileyte.pax (207-172-209-99.s99.tnt1.nrf.erols.com [207.172.209.99]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA01735; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:47:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <359A212E.7B39@smtp.erols.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 07:44:46 -0400 From: Nico Over Organization: none X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu CC: diy_efi@esl.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: Northstar equipment References: <199807010436.XAA01821@mxserver.forbin.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Jennifer and Brock Fraser wrote: > > I've seen a lot of talk of people using Northstar engines for engine swaps > in vehicles like Fiero's and such. I've also seen some rumblings about > converting these engines to carb(s) to avoid dealing with the injection > system. > > For a guy that wants to purchase a complete Northstar control system (ECM, > sensors, ignition parts) does anybody have any leads on where to buy this > as "take-off" or possibly unwanted parts? > > I know that the Northstar engine ECM is networked with the other on-board > controllers. Does anybody know if the engine controller will function as a > "lone box" without it's other box-friends to "talk to"? In what control > trim (spark, fuel systems) are people using these engines? > > Thanks, > Brock Brock, try Southern Performance Systems in Atlanta 770--416-7649, e-mail sps350@aol.com. They advertise in Street Rodder Magazine as having complete Nothstar engines/trannies. I have never dealt with them so can't give you any qualitative assessment. Nico Over From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 07:51:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA27338 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:51:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA27323 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:51:27 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12817 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:01:53 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA23100 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:52:05 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:52:14 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 13:52:14 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 07:51:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA27339 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:51:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA27321 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:51:26 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12813 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:01:52 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA23095 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:52:04 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:52:13 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 13:52:13 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 07:51:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA27334 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:51:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA27320 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:51:26 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12809 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:01:51 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA23090 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:52:03 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:52:12 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 13:52:12 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 07:51:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA27367 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:51:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA27348 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:51:32 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12833 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:01:57 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA23116 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:52:08 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:52:18 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 13:52:17 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 07:51:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA27396 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:51:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA27355 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:51:33 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12837 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:01:58 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA23121 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:52:10 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:52:19 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 13:52:18 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 07:51:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA27408 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:51:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA27377 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:51:36 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12849 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:02:01 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA23136 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:52:13 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:52:22 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 13:52:22 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 07:51:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA27397 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:51:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA27359 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:51:34 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12841 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:01:59 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA23126 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:52:11 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:52:20 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 13:52:19 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 07:51:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA27401 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:51:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA27364 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:51:35 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12845 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:02:00 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA23131 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:52:12 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:52:21 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 13:52:21 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 07:54:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA27526 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:54:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA27522 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:54:04 -0400 Received: from malinda ([12.69.67.123]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with ESMTP id <19980701115401.CWPV10210@malinda> for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 11:54:01 +0000 Message-ID: <359A1EC5.19A4BAD@worldnet.att.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 07:34:29 -0400 From: Jason Weir X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: Scanner problems X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <01bda4e5$4fa632c0$22198fd1@nacelp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Bruce Plecan wrote: > That doesn't seem to make any sense. I wouldn't venture a quess > why that could, happen. Maybe a calibration thing from Howell > for not running EST?. Geez, that is strange. > Bruce Might that cause the extremely rich condition? the engine thinks its under load? If I unkook the MAP sensor at idle, it reports 30 inches and trips a code 33 as it should? But I will try a new MAP sensor and give howell a call, me thinks that I will dump the howell chip and get a stock GM 4.3 chip and go from there, I have no idea what they did to that chip, maybe I can talk them out of the bin that they used...yeah right, anyway thanks again, Jason -- Jason Weir - 88 YJ - 258 / Howell TBI 145K and counting Fayetteville, North Carolina JTW Web pages at http://home.att.net/~jweir mailto:jweir@worldnet.att.net From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:01:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA27900 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:01:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA27895 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:01:23 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12869 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:11:51 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23186 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:02:03 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:02:12 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 14:02:12 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:01:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA27918 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:01:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA27905 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:01:31 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12873 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:11:57 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23191 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:02:09 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:02:18 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 14:02:17 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:09:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA28254 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:09:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from hrmse02.dhr.state.nc.us (exchange2.dhr.state.nc.us [149.168.180.67]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA28249 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:08:58 -0400 Message-Id: <199807011208.IAA28249@esl.eng.ohio-state.edu> Received: by exchange2.dhr.state.nc.us with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:07:13 -0400 From: Mike Hoenes To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu, Postmaster@edag.de Subject: RE: Returned mail: user pet unknown Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:05:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu id IAA28251 Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu somebody get this mail server off this list please!!! ---------- From: Postmaster@edag.de To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown Date: Wed, Jul 1, 1998 9:12AM Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:11:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA28404 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:11:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA28383 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:11:31 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12962 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:21:56 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23322 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:12:08 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:12:17 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 14:12:17 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:11:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA28445 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:11:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from sparticus.bright.net (sparticus.bright.net [205.212.123.14]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA28441 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:11:43 -0400 Received: from nacelp (dark-cas1-cs-6.dial.bright.net [209.143.25.24]) by sparticus.bright.net (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.FNG_Build) with SMTP id IAA23613 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:09:50 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bruce Plecan" To: Subject: Re: Scanner problems Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:13:54 -0400 Message-ID: <01bda4e9$b72f2f60$18198fd1@nacelp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu -----Original Message----- From: Jason Weir To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Date: Wednesday, July 01, 1998 8:05 AM Subject: Re: Scanner problems >Bruce Plecan wrote: > >> That doesn't seem to make any sense. I wouldn't venture a quess >> why that could, happen. Maybe a calibration thing from Howell >> for not running EST?. Geez, that is strange. >> Bruce > >Might that cause the extremely rich condition? the engine thinks its >under load? If I unkook the MAP sensor at idle, it reports 30 inches >and trips a code 33 as it should? Try switching power and ground. At atmosheric conditions it should be over like 4.8v, on the sensor line...... That or ya get a barometric sensor, or something strange in there Bruce But I will try a new MAP sensor and >give howell a call, me thinks that I will dump the howell chip and get a >stock GM 4.3 chip and go from there, I have no idea what they did to >that chip, maybe I can talk them out of the bin that they used...yeah >right, anyway thanks again, Jason > >-- >Jason Weir - 88 YJ - 258 / Howell TBI 145K and counting >Fayetteville, North Carolina >JTW Web pages at http://home.att.net/~jweir >mailto:jweir@worldnet.att.net > > > From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:14:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA28564 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:14:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from sparticus.bright.net (sparticus.bright.net [205.212.123.14]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA28556 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:14:28 -0400 Received: from nacelp (dark-cas1-cs-6.dial.bright.net [209.143.25.24]) by sparticus.bright.net (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.FNG_Build) with SMTP id IAA24353 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:12:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bruce Plecan" To: Subject: Re: Scanner problems Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:16:39 -0400 Message-ID: <01bda4ea$19e3bd60$18198fd1@nacelp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu -----Original Message----- From: Jason Weir To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Date: Wednesday, July 01, 1998 8:05 AM Subject: Re: Scanner problems >Bruce Plecan wrote: > >> That doesn't seem to make any sense. I wouldn't venture a quess >> why that could, happen. Maybe a calibration thing from Howell >> for not running EST?. Geez, that is strange. >> Bruce > >Might that cause the extremely rich condition? the engine thinks its >under load? If I unkook the MAP sensor at idle, it reports 30 inches >and trips a code 33 as it should? Do you mean unplug, electricially or unplug vacuum line?. My first letter was for vacuum line. If you unplug electrically then yes 30" vac. But I will try a new MAP sensor and >give howell a call, me thinks that I will dump the howell chip and get a >stock GM 4.3 chip and go from there, I have no idea what they did to >that chip, maybe I can talk them out of the bin that they used...yeah >right, anyway thanks again, Jason > >-- >Jason Weir - 88 YJ - 258 / Howell TBI 145K and counting >Fayetteville, North Carolina >JTW Web pages at http://home.att.net/~jweir >mailto:jweir@worldnet.att.net > > > From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:21:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA28827 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:21:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA28815 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:21:17 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13002 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:31:46 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23392 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:21:57 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:22:06 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 14:22:06 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:31:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA29171 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:31:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA29160 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:31:24 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13066 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:41:51 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23495 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:32:03 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:32:12 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 14:32:12 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:31:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA29181 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:31:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA29170 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:31:27 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13070 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:41:53 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23500 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:32:05 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:32:14 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 14:32:14 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:31:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA29202 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:31:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA29193 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:31:32 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13090 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:42:00 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23525 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:32:12 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:32:21 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 14:32:20 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:31:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA29187 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:31:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA29172 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:31:28 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13074 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:41:55 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23505 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:32:07 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:32:16 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 14:32:16 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:31:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA29208 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:31:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA29203 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:31:34 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13094 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:42:02 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23530 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:32:14 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:32:22 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 14:32:22 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:31:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA29198 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:31:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA29191 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:31:31 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13086 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:41:59 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23520 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:32:11 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:32:19 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 14:32:19 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:31:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA29190 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:31:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA29176 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:31:28 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13082 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:41:57 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23515 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:32:09 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:32:18 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 14:32:18 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. Überprüfen Sie die korrekte Schreibweise. Your email could not be delievered because the receipient petis unknown. Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:38:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA29395 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:38:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA29391 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:38:25 -0400 Received: from malinda ([12.69.67.123]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with ESMTP id <19980701123821.DIIV10210@malinda> for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:38:21 +0000 Message-ID: <359A2924.B4609549@worldnet.att.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 08:18:44 -0400 From: Jason Weir X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: Scanner problems X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <01bda4ea$19e3bd60$18198fd1@nacelp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Bruce Plecan wrote: > Do you mean unplug, electricially or unplug vacuum line?. My first > letter > was for vacuum line. If you unplug electrically then yes 30" > vac. I unplugged the vacuum line and it read 30 hg and tripped the code 33, I didn't try the electrical connection yet. What's up with all the returned mail? -- Jason Weir - 88 YJ - 258 / Howell TBI 145K and counting Fayetteville, North Carolina JTW Web pages at http://home.att.net/~jweir mailto:jweir@worldnet.att.net From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:41:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA29445 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:41:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from dmzserv.kemet.com (dmzserv.kemet.com [206.74.114.2]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA29437 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:41:04 -0400 Received: from smtpgw.kemet.com ([206.74.114.1]) by dmzserv.kemet.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with SMTP id 368 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:34:59 -0400 Received: by smtpgw.kemet.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.1 (569.2 2-6-1998)) id 85256634.0045C86B ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:42:12 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEMET From: "Mike Turner" To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Message-ID: <85256634.004573B8.00@smtpgw.kemet.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:40:24 -0400 Subject: Re: Northstar equipment Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu A local yard is asking $2500 for the Northstar front end. That includes engine, transaxle, brake rotors and calipers, and steering knuckles. Don't know about the ECM. I have no idea if this is a good or bad price. From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:41:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA29503 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:41:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA29494 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:41:26 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13135 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:51:53 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23607 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:42:05 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:42:14 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 14:42:14 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. Überprüfen Sie die korrekte Schreibweise. Your email could not be delievered because the receipient petis unknown. Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:41:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA29507 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:41:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA29498 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:41:27 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13139 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:51:55 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23612 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:42:06 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:42:15 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 14:42:15 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. Überprüfen Sie die korrekte Schreibweise. Your email could not be delievered because the receipient petis unknown. Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:41:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA29520 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:41:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA29510 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:41:30 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13143 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:51:56 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23617 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:42:08 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:42:17 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 14:42:17 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. Überprüfen Sie die korrekte Schreibweise. Your email could not be delievered because the receipient petis unknown. Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:41:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA29523 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:41:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA29509 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:41:30 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13131 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:51:52 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23602 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:42:04 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:42:13 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 14:42:13 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:41:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA29532 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:41:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA29511 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:41:31 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13147 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:51:58 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23622 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:42:10 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:42:19 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 14:42:18 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:41:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA29546 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:41:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA29535 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:41:34 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13151 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:51:59 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23627 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:42:11 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:42:20 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 14:42:20 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:41:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA29577 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:41:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA29554 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:41:38 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13155 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:52:05 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23632 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:42:17 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:42:25 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 14:42:25 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:41:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA29598 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:41:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA29585 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:41:42 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13163 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:52:07 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23642 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:42:19 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:42:28 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 14:42:28 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:41:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA29599 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:41:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA29586 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:41:42 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13167 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:52:09 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23647 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:42:21 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:42:30 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 14:42:29 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:41:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA29596 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:41:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA29583 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:41:42 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13159 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:52:06 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23637 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:42:18 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:42:27 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 14:42:26 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:41:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA29610 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:41:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA29600 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:41:45 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13171 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:52:11 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23652 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:42:23 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:42:32 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 14:42:31 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. Überprüfen Sie die korrekte Schreibweise. Your email could not be delievered because the receipient petis unknown. Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:46:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA29773 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:46:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from send101.yahoomail.com (send101.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.87]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA29768 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:46:12 -0400 Message-ID: <19980701124606.16869.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.67.56.239] by send101.yahoomail.com; Wed, 01 Jul 1998 05:46:06 PDT Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 05:46:06 -0700 (PDT) From: andy quaas Subject: Re: holley TBI, 7730, and Howell To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu well i did it. I ordered a harness and chip from howell for my truck. It will be here friday. I am using the 1227730 ECM (not a typo!) with electronic spark controlled HEI on a 454 chevrolet. I am using the holley 900cfm 4-bbl TBI unit (with an IAC on it). The ECM from the local junkyard was $50 removed. They had a bunch of them laying around. Mine came from a 1989 pontiac 6000. PROM ID = ADDX (i think...) Andy ---Slava wrote: > > What vehicles are using the 7747 and the 7730 ECMs? > How march do the 7747 and the 7730 ECMs cost on a junkyard? > > Slava. > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:51:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA30006 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:51:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA29999 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:51:22 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13177 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:01:50 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23677 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:52:01 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:52:10 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 14:52:10 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:51:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA30017 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:51:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA30003 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:51:23 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13181 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:01:51 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23683 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:52:03 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:52:12 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 14:52:11 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:51:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA30037 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:51:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA30011 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:51:25 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13185 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:01:52 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23688 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:52:04 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:52:13 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 14:52:13 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:51:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA30171 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:51:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA30153 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:51:43 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13225 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:02:07 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23738 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:52:19 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:52:27 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 14:52:27 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 08:51:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA30160 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:51:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA30130 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:51:39 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13221 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:02:05 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23733 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:52:17 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:52:26 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 14:52:25 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 09:01:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA30712 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:01:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA30704 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:01:41 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13281 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:12:05 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA23835 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:02:17 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:02:26 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 15:02:25 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 09:31:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA31943 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:31:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA31920 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:31:25 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13409 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:41:53 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24088 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:32:01 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:32:08 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 15:32:08 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 09:31:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA31947 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:31:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA31937 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:31:27 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13415 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:41:54 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24105 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:32:05 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:32:13 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 15:32:13 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 09:31:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA31941 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:31:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA31919 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:31:25 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13408 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:41:53 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24100 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:32:03 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:32:12 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 15:32:11 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 09:31:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA31935 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:31:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA31914 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:31:24 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13398 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:41:51 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24092 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:32:02 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:32:10 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 15:32:10 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 09:31:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA31936 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:31:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA31912 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:31:24 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13397 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:41:51 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24084 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:32:00 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:32:07 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 15:32:06 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 09:31:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA32007 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:31:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA32003 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:31:49 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13314 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:21:53 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA23894 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:12:04 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:12:13 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 15:12:13 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 09:36:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA32159 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:36:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from sparticus.bright.net (sparticus.bright.net [205.212.123.14]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA32155 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:36:03 -0400 Received: from nacelp (dark-cas2-cs-3.dial.bright.net [209.143.25.72]) by sparticus.bright.net (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.FNG_Build) with SMTP id JAA20145 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:34:12 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bruce Plecan" To: Subject: Re: Scanner problems Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:38:15 -0400 Message-ID: <01bda4f5$7fac8f40$48198fd1@nacelp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu -----Original Message----- From: Jason Weir Subject: Re: Scanner problems >Bruce Plecan wrote: > >I unplugged the vacuum line and it read 30 hg and tripped the code 33, I didn't try the electrical connection yet. With the key on, scanner hooked up, engine not running you should have a MAP of 95ish K/Pa. Inside where the connector plugs into the sensor should be a gray area. What's up with all the returned mail? > >-- >Jason Weir - 88 YJ - 258 / Howell TBI 145K and counting >Fayetteville, North Carolina >JTW Web pages at http://home.att.net/~jweir >mailto:jweir@worldnet.att.net > > Cheers Bruce From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 09:40:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA31036 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:11:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA31028 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:11:20 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13298 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:21:48 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA23872 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:12:00 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:12:09 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 15:12:08 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 09:41:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA32357 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:41:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA32350 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:41:25 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13450 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:51:52 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24168 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:42:04 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:42:12 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 15:42:12 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 09:41:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA32369 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:41:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA32359 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:41:28 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13454 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:51:53 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24173 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:42:05 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:42:13 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 15:42:13 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 09:41:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA32374 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:41:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA32361 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:41:28 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13462 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:51:55 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24183 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:42:07 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:42:16 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 15:42:15 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 09:41:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA32376 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:41:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA32360 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:41:28 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13458 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:51:54 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24178 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:42:06 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:42:14 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 15:42:14 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 09:41:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA32397 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:41:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA32379 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:41:32 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13470 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:51:57 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24193 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:42:09 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:42:18 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 15:42:18 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 09:41:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA32407 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:41:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA32378 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:41:32 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13466 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:51:56 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24188 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:42:08 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:42:17 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 15:42:16 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 09:41:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA32410 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:41:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA32389 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:41:33 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13478 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:51:59 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24203 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:42:11 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:42:20 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 15:42:20 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 09:41:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA32406 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:41:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA32386 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:41:33 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13474 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:51:58 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24198 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:42:10 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:42:19 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 15:42:18 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 09:41:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA32433 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:41:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA32416 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:41:36 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13482 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:52:00 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24208 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:42:12 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:42:21 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 15:42:21 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 09:41:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA32435 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:41:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA32425 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:41:37 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13486 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:52:01 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24213 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:42:13 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:42:22 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 15:42:22 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 09:47:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA32689 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:47:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from missouri.mcn.net (root@missouri.mcn.net [204.212.170.3]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA32685 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:47:06 -0400 Received: from mcn.net (pm2-084.billings.mcn.net [208.25.39.84]) by missouri.mcn.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21268 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:50:54 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <359A39E7.444EA005@mcn.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 07:30:15 -0600 From: Shannen Durphey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: Scanner problems References: <01bda4e5$4fa632c0$22198fd1@nacelp> <359A1EC5.19A4BAD@worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu I'd be curious to see what's in that chip. Should be able to read it if'n ya got a burner... Shannen Jason Weir wrote: > > Bruce Plecan wrote: > > > That doesn't seem to make any sense. I wouldn't venture a quess > > why that could, happen. Maybe a calibration thing from Howell > > for not running EST?. Geez, that is strange. > > Bruce > > Might that cause the extremely rich condition? the engine thinks its > under load? If I unkook the MAP sensor at idle, it reports 30 inches > and trips a code 33 as it should? But I will try a new MAP sensor and > give howell a call, me thinks that I will dump the howell chip and get a > stock GM 4.3 chip and go from there, I have no idea what they did to > that chip, maybe I can talk them out of the bin that they used...yeah > right, anyway thanks again, Jason > > -- > Jason Weir - 88 YJ - 258 / Howell TBI 145K and counting > Fayetteville, North Carolina > JTW Web pages at http://home.att.net/~jweir > mailto:jweir@worldnet.att.net From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 09:50:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA00042 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:50:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from mail.jax (mail.jax.bellsouth.net [205.152.64.21]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA00038 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:50:34 -0400 Received: from bellsouth.net (host-209-214-128-85.jax.bellsouth.net [209.214.128.85]) by mail.jax (8.8.8-spamdog/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21305 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:50:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <359A3EF0.722A5915@bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 09:51:44 -0400 From: mrvette X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: Scanner problems References: <01bda4f5$7fac8f40$48198fd1@nacelp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu To Bruce plecan........are you having the same problems as I am? something about an incorrect addy from what looks like Germany..... postmaster@edag.de ? GENE SLATER please reply.... From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 09:51:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA00096 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:51:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA00090 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:51:36 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13545 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:02:03 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24295 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:52:15 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:52:24 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 15:52:23 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 09:51:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA00102 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:51:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA00097 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:51:38 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13549 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:02:05 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24300 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:52:17 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:52:26 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 15:52:25 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 09:51:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA00091 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:51:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA00085 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:51:34 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13541 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:02:01 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24290 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:52:13 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:52:22 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 15:52:21 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 09:51:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA00116 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:51:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA00103 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:51:41 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13553 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:02:07 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24305 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:52:19 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:52:28 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 15:52:27 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 09:51:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA00136 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:51:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA00117 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:51:43 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13557 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:02:10 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24310 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:52:22 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:52:30 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 15:52:30 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 09:52:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA00199 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:52:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA00180 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:51:54 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13575 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:02:19 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24335 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:52:31 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:52:38 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 15:52:38 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 09:52:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA00204 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:52:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA00183 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:51:55 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13585 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:02:21 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24345 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:52:33 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:52:42 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 15:52:42 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 09:52:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA00219 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:52:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA00200 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:51:59 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13589 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:02:23 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24350 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:52:35 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:52:43 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 15:52:43 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 09:59:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA00863 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:59:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from sparticus.bright.net (sparticus.bright.net [205.212.123.14]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA00859 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:59:03 -0400 Received: from nacelp (dark-cas1-cs-33.dial.bright.net [209.143.25.51]) by sparticus.bright.net (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.FNG_Build) with SMTP id JAA27878 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:57:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bruce Plecan" To: Subject: holley TBI 7730 Howell, and Error at CSH, HQ Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:01:14 -0400 Message-ID: <01bda4f8$b5885f60$33198fd1@nacelp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: andy quaas Subject: Re: holley TBI, 7730, and Howell I'll be garll darned the research staff here at CSH, World HQ, did find a TBI 1227730, 4 cylinder 2.5 Buick Century, 1990.. I'd still be interested in the ecm pinout, and to see the bin/chip.... Anybody, fire 4 P+H injectors off a gm ecm before?. Anybody got a ecm pinout of a 90 2.5 Buick Century ecm?. >well i did it. I ordered a harness and chip from howell for my truck. > It will be here friday. I am using the 1227730 ECM (not a typo!) >with electronic spark controlled HEI on a 454 chevrolet. I am using >the holley 900cfm 4-bbl TBI unit (with an IAC on it). The ECM from >the local junkyard was $50 removed. They had a bunch of them laying >around. Mine came from a 1989 pontiac 6000. PROM ID = ADDX (i >think...) > >Andy > > >---Slava wrote: >> >> What vehicles are using the 7747 and the 7730 ECMs? >> How march do the 7747 and the 7730 ECMs cost on a junkyard? >> >> Slava. >> >> >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 10:01:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA00929 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:01:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA00924 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:01:16 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13633 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:11:43 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA24443 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:01:55 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:02:03 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 16:02:03 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 10:01:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA00938 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:01:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA00928 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:01:17 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13637 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:11:44 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA24448 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:01:56 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:02:05 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 16:02:04 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 10:01:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA00945 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:01:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA00933 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:01:18 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13641 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:11:45 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA24453 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:01:57 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:02:06 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 16:02:06 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 10:01:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA00956 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:01:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA00941 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:01:19 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13645 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:11:47 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA24458 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:01:59 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:02:08 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 16:02:07 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 10:01:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA00969 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:01:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA00954 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:01:21 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13649 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:11:48 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA24463 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:02:00 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:02:09 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 16:02:09 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 10:01:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA00986 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:01:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA00970 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:01:24 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13661 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:11:52 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA24480 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:02:04 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:02:12 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 16:02:12 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 10:01:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA01002 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:01:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA00980 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:01:27 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13653 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:11:49 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA24470 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:02:01 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:02:10 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 16:02:10 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. Überprüfen Sie die korrekte Schreibweise. Your email could not be delievered because the receipient petis unknown. Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 10:01:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA01008 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:01:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA00992 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:01:28 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13657 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:11:51 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA24475 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:02:03 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:02:11 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 16:02:11 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. 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Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 10:01:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA01017 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:01:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA00985 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:01:28 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13665 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:11:53 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA24485 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:02:05 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:02:14 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 16:02:14 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. Überprüfen Sie die korrekte Schreibweise. Your email could not be delievered because the receipient petis unknown. Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 10:01:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA01022 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:01:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA01001 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:01:29 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13669 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:11:54 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA24490 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:02:06 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:02:15 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 16:02:15 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. Überprüfen Sie die korrekte Schreibweise. Your email could not be delievered because the receipient petis unknown. Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 10:01:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA01031 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:01:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA01003 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:01:30 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13673 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:11:56 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA24495 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:02:08 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:02:17 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 16:02:16 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. Überprüfen Sie die korrekte Schreibweise. Your email could not be delievered because the receipient petis unknown. Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 10:01:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA01038 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:01:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA01030 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:01:34 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13677 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:11:57 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA24500 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:02:09 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:02:18 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 16:02:18 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger k0608 unbekannt ist. Überprüfen Sie die korrekte Schreibweise. Your email could not be delievered because the receipient k0608is unknown. Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 10:01:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA01047 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:01:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from w3.edag.de ([195.211.48.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA01032 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:01:34 -0400 Received: from modem.edag.de (root@modem.edag.de [130.13.1.45]) by w3.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13681 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:11:58 +0200 Received: from mip061.edag.de (mip061 [130.11.3.7]) by modem.edag.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA24505 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:02:11 +0200 Received: by mip061.edag.de via sendmail with stdio id for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:02:19 +0200 (MET DST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #3 built DST-Oct-6) Message-Id: To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Postmaster@edag.de Date: Wed Jul 1 16:02:19 MET DST 1998 Subject: Returned mail: user pet unknown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ihre eMail konnte nicht zugestellt werden, da der Empfänger pet unbekannt ist. Überprüfen Sie die korrekte Schreibweise. Your email could not be delievered because the receipient petis unknown. Please check the correct spelling. --Postmaster@edag.de From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 10:01:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA01076 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:01:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA01071 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:01:43 -0400 Received: from malinda ([12.69.67.152]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with ESMTP id <19980701140113.EHVI10210@malinda> for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:01:13 +0000 Message-ID: <359A3CA1.5CF6F200@worldnet.att.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 09:41:53 -0400 From: Jason Weir X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: Scanner problems X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <01bda4e5$4fa632c0$22198fd1@nacelp> <359A1EC5.19A4BAD@worldnet.att.net> <359A39E7.444EA005@mcn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Shannen Durphey wrote: > I'd be curious to see what's in that chip. Should be able > to read it if'n ya got a burner... > Shannen It will get read as soon as the burner arrives.... Jason -- Jason Weir - 88 YJ - 258 / Howell TBI 145K and counting Fayetteville, North Carolina JTW Web pages at http://home.att.net/~jweir mailto:jweir@worldnet.att.net From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 10:14:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA01538 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:14:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from sparticus.bright.net (sparticus.bright.net [205.212.123.14]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA01533 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:13:54 -0400 Received: from nacelp (dark-cas1-cs-33.dial.bright.net [209.143.25.51]) by sparticus.bright.net (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.FNG_Build) with SMTP id KAA03124 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:12:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bruce Plecan" To: Subject: Re: Scanner problems Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:16:04 -0400 Message-ID: <01bda4fa$c87a9d20$33198fd1@nacelp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu -----Original Message----- From: mrvette To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Date: Wednesday, July 01, 1998 10:06 AM Subject: Re: Scanner problems >To Bruce plecan........are you having the same problems as I am? something >about an incorrect addy from what looks like Germany..... > >postmaster@edag.de ? GENE SLATER please reply.... YES, I AM over 100 bounces, and growing quickly. Bruce nacelp@bright.net I wrote Orin with a copy of it hours ago From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 12:14:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA04403 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:14:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from mozart.bcit.bc.ca (aix4.bcit.bc.ca [142.232.189.164]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA04398 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:14:30 -0400 Received: from pfenske (usr122.bcit.bc.ca [142.232.188.222]) by mozart.bcit.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA18228 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:13:30 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:13:30 -0700 Message-Id: <199807011613.JAA18228@mozart.bcit.bc.ca> X-Sender: ffnsp955@pophost.bcit.bc.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: peter paul fenske Subject: Re: Northstar equipment Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Hi Bruce and all The ecm is both. Normally it is just a talker spewing a repeating instrument panel data stream on the buss. The buss can be grabbed through a neat protocol by various systems on the buss when needed. This is why scanners get kinda tricky on these types of vehicles :peter >Wouldn't the engine ecm be a listener rather than a talker as far >as being on a bus line?. That is using the 4 others as "sensors" >to react to?.. >Just curious if that would be an actuate statement. >Cheers >Bruce > > >>My 3800SC ECM was linked with 5 other boxes in the donor car (Bonne). When >I >>put it in the Ciera, I used only the ECM and it works fine and doesn't >>complain. Looks like they don't ping each other. >> >>TK >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Jennifer and Brock Fraser >>To: diy_efi@esl.eng.ohio-state.edu >>Date: Tuesday, June 30, 1998 9:54 PM >>Subject: Northstar equipment >> >> >>> >>>I've seen a lot of talk of people using Northstar engines for engine swaps >>>in vehicles like Fiero's and such. I've also seen some rumblings about >>>converting these engines to carb(s) to avoid dealing with the injection >>>system. >>> >>>For a guy that wants to purchase a complete Northstar control system (ECM, >>>sensors, ignition parts) does anybody have any leads on where to buy this >>>as "take-off" or possibly unwanted parts? >>> >>>I know that the Northstar engine ECM is networked with the other on-board >>>controllers. Does anybody know if the engine controller will function as >a >>>"lone box" without it's other box-friends to "talk to"? In what control >>>trim (spark, fuel systems) are people using these engines? >>> >>>Thanks, >>>Brock >>> >> >> > > > From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 12:17:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA04492 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:17:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from hal-pc.org (hal-pc.org [204.52.135.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA04487 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:17:02 -0400 Received: from hal-pc.org (fatman-76.hal-pc.org [209.113.52.76]) by hal-pc.org (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA03769; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 11:17:00 -0459 (CDT) Message-ID: <359A60FC.B90893C8@hal-pc.org> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 11:17:00 -0500 From: "Robert W. Hughes" Organization: BackYard Engineering X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@esl.eng.ohio-state.edu, jweir@worldnet.att.net Subject: Re: scanner problems References: <199807011211.IAA28432@esl.eng.ohio-state.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu > Might that cause the extremely rich condition? the engine thinks its > under load? If I unkook the MAP sensor at idle, it reports 30 inches > and trips a code 33 as it should? But I will try a new MAP sensor and > give howell a call, me thinks that I will dump the howell chip and get a > stock GM 4.3 chip and go from there, I have no idea what they did to > that chip, maybe I can talk them out of the bin that they used...yeah It sounds like they sold you a turbo chip...18"Hg into a 1bar MAP sensor will produce about 2volts. 2volts into a ecm expecting a 2bar MAP sensor will be interpreted as 10"Hg. The chip is what controls this. -- Robert W. Hughes (Bob) BackYard Engineering Houston, Texas rwhughe@hal-pc.org From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 12:51:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA05359 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:51:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA05355 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:51:52 -0400 Received: from malinda ([12.69.67.34]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with ESMTP id <19980701165144.GUNB10210@malinda>; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:51:44 +0000 Message-ID: <359A6498.EAEFE6B7@worldnet.att.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 12:32:24 -0400 From: Jason Weir X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Robert W. Hughes" CC: diy_efi@esl.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: scanner problems X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199807011211.IAA28432@esl.eng.ohio-state.edu> <359A60FC.B90893C8@hal-pc.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Robert W. Hughes wrote: > It sounds like they sold you a turbo chip...18"Hg into a 1bar MAP > sensor > will produce about 2volts. 2volts into a ecm expecting a 2bar MAP > sensor > will be interpreted as 10"Hg. The chip is what controls this. Robert, Is there any way to tell which MAP sensor I have? P/N's or something? -- Jason Weir - 88 YJ - 258 / Howell TBI 145K and counting Fayetteville, North Carolina JTW Web pages at http://home.att.net/~jweir mailto:jweir@worldnet.att.net From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 12:58:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA05550 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:58:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from mail.jax (mail.jax.bellsouth.net [205.152.64.21]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA05545 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:58:23 -0400 Received: from bellsouth.net (host-209-214-128-85.jax.bellsouth.net [209.214.128.85]) by mail.jax (8.8.8-spamdog/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21989 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:58:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <359A6AF3.7BAC8EF1@bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 12:59:31 -0400 From: mrvette X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: Northstar equipment References: <199807011613.JAA18228@mozart.bcit.bc.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu seems to me if the injecters and sending units/IAC motors etc are the same impedances resistances they shold work with another GM computer...such as 1227730, with an apropriate chip....GENE From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 13:27:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA06180 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:27:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA06176 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:27:43 -0400 Received: from malinda ([12.69.67.203]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with ESMTP id <19980701172743.HHFZ10210@malinda> for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:27:43 +0000 Message-ID: <359A6B12.CB0504D2@worldnet.att.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 13:00:02 -0400 From: Jason Weir X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: Scanner problems X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <01bda4f5$7fac8f40$48198fd1@nacelp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Bruce Plecan wrote: > With the key on, scanner hooked up, engine not running you should > have > a MAP of 95ish K/Pa. how bout 100 - 101 ish? > Inside where the connector plugs into the sensor should be a gray > area. strike 2, its black? From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 13:34:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA06287 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:34:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from ihgw2.lucent.com (ihgw2.lucent.com [207.19.48.2]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA06282 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:34:50 -0400 Received: from nwmail.wh.lucent.com by ihig2.firewall.lucent.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-L sol2) id MAA12546; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:24:05 -0500 Received: by nwmail.wh.lucent.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.4 sol2) id NAA01693; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:34:37 -0400 Received: from lucent.com by nwmail.wh.lucent.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.4 sol2) id NAA01690; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:34:37 -0400 Message-ID: <359A7246.B8FB179@lucent.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 13:30:46 -0400 From: Ken Kelly Organization: Lucent Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-EMS-1.3.1 (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: Northstar equipment References: <199807010436.XAA01821@mxserver.forbin.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu About 2 or 3 months ago one of the Car mags ran an article on a shop in the southwest doing Northstar based street Rods with a Homemade Highrise Intake and carburators. I would look to them and see where they ditch there takeoff's. I get Hot Rod, Street Rodder, and a few other mags. I think it was in Street Rodder. If you can't locate it send me Private email and I will dig through my back issues. Ken Jennifer and Brock Fraser wrote: > > I've seen a lot of talk of people using Northstar engines for engine swaps > in vehicles like Fiero's and such. I've also seen some rumblings about > converting these engines to carb(s) to avoid dealing with the injection > system. > > For a guy that wants to purchase a complete Northstar control system (ECM, > sensors, ignition parts) does anybody have any leads on where to buy this > as "take-off" or possibly unwanted parts? > > I know that the Northstar engine ECM is networked with the other on-board > controllers. Does anybody know if the engine controller will function as a > "lone box" without it's other box-friends to "talk to"? In what control > trim (spark, fuel systems) are people using these engines? > > Thanks, > Brock From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 13:53:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA06680 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:53:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from ocfexch2.ocf (ocfexch2.ocf.anl.gov [146.137.76.38]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA06675 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:53:34 -0400 Received: by ocfexch2.ocf.anl.gov with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:56:14 -0500 Message-ID: <8B0E1273DCFFD111B35F0060083A3496011D7A@ocfexch2.ocf.anl.gov> From: "Kurek, Larry" To: "'diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu'" Subject: RE: CPI Swap Question..from TBI Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:56:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu So...(BTW, Thanks for the info), are there any other tidbits you can offer? I just got the CPI manifold with all the sensors yesterday and did a preliminary check of compatibility. Like you said, I need a new TPS connector, injector connector, and suprisingly, I need to hook up an IAT sensor, and get a new EGR connector (since the CPI uses a different EGR valve with feedback than the Astro TBI). Finally, I found I have to run a relay to the air valve in the manifold...again no big deal, but now I have to find a connector for the valve itself...oh joy. Do you have a source on these connectors anywhere? I don't want to go through GM since they charge $20+ *just* for connectors...grrrr... Thanks! Larry PS> How does it run? Are you happy with the performance? > -----Original Message----- > From: peter paul fenske [SMTP:ffnsp955@bcit.bc.ca] > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 1998 2:27 AM > To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu > Subject: Re: CPI Swap Question..from TBI > > Hi Larry > > Well I hooked up a 97 4.3 vortech to a 730 ecm in my S10. > I essentially followed the wiring diagram fer a 91 camaro > and used the 3.1 auto cal for the camaro. > The 97 differs from earlier cpi in that 6 injectors feeding > poppets are used instead of one central injector. > These were saturated types which the 730 can drive > > I have afeeling the old cpi is peak and hold. > Measure the dc resistance if it is 2 or 3 ohms it is peak and > hold. > > So prob go to the 747 4.3 application. use the wiring as is > make up a plug fer injectors. > The tps on mine was the same as 2.8 3.1 style plug > so you might need a different plug. wrecking yard or > parts store should do it. > > All the other sensors are identical. > > You might have to adjust the base pulse but you might luck > out and all will be fine. > > As for the air divider well a lot of people leave it out. > It does give a bit of better low end torgue but at > a cost of a wee bit of top end breathing. > > take care:peter > > Ps use your stock HEI. Don't have wiring, most public > libraries do have mitchells. > > >Short of finding a factory Astro harness for use with this manifold, > >what do I need to do to make the TBI harness work with the CPI. I > assume > >I'll have to repin the ECM connectors, and possibly get new > connectors > >for the sensors/controls on the CPI. Does anyone know how adaptable > this > >is? Also, can I use the same ECM, with perhaps a different Mem-Cal? > > > >FWIW, I am buying this manifold as a take-off from Howell EFI, and > they > >*do* offer a factory harness modification service...for around $550. > >Being the frugal type, I'd rather do this myself. > > > >PS...does anyone have a copy of a 1992 wiring diagram/pinouts for the > >CPI motor? I know it came in S10 trucks, Blazers, and Astro vans.... > > > >TIA! > > > >Larry Kurek > > > > From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 14:00:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA06890 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:00:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.16]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA06885 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:00:22 -0400 From: xxalexx@ix.netcom.com Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA01149 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:59:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199807011759.MAA01149@dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com> Received: from ron-ny5-15.ix.netcom.com(205.184.175.143) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma001071; Wed Jul 1 12:59:42 1998 Comments: Authenticated sender is To: DIY_EFI@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 00:25:16 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: PIC 101 (flashing) Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54) Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu This will conclude the 101 freshman class. The final exam will see if it works. With ex1.c in PCM editor press compile. If you have any typing errors you will get messages explaining your mistakes, You must correct and recompile untill you get success. Take your PIC16F84 chip place on flat surface and bend both rows of pins slightly to fit in the 18 pin programming socket. Match location of pin#1 marking dimple on chip and pin#1 lettering on programmer board and insert chip. Connect programmer to printer port and plug power supply in. Press program to start your spep.exe program. On spep screen set device to F84. Load your ex1.obj program. If you get file error check your object file extension could be ex1.hex depending on compiler options setting also helful to have spep.exe in your project directory were ex1.obj is. Check the upper left listing for correct settings, they should agree with your #fuses listing code protect=off oscillator=XT watchdog=off timer=off. Press program, if you get error message check power and printer connection and pin#1 location. On success press any key, then escape to return to PCM compiler. Place chip in your project board, connect rs232 to your PC serial port. The CCS compiler comes with a simple comm program called sio.exe. Exit to dos shell and run sio.exe. Set to 9600 baud 1 stop bit and no parity bit. Set port to your rs232 port number. If you do not now this number run msd.exe or other utility program. If you are using another comm program make sure CTS and DSR or disabled, or connect db9pins 7to8 together and 6,1,4 together. Turn on your PIC power and watch your new screen saver. Hit alt x to exit alex From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 14:00:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA06908 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:00:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.16]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA06901 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:00:31 -0400 From: xxalexx@ix.netcom.com Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA01147 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:00:00 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199807011800.MAA01147@dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com> Received: from ron-ny5-15.ix.netcom.com(205.184.175.143) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma001071; Wed Jul 1 12:59:39 1998 Comments: Authenticated sender is To: DIY_EFI@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 00:25:16 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: PIC 201 (Timer0) Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54) Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Timers 1 instruction cycle takes 4 clock periods to run. This is the fastest a PIC can do something. If using a 4 MHz oscillator period=1/frequency = 1/4MHz=250ns 1 instruction cycle = 4*period = 1us The timers are based on the above instruction cycle as the min. time they can measure. Timer0 timer0 is on every model of PIC It can also be used as a input pulse counter using the pin labeled RA4/TOCK1 Timer0 has a 8bit counter that counts from 0 to 255 then again from 0 to 255. each count is equal to the instruction cycle time base, or if using as external counter on a edge of a external pulse. Using the CCS PCM compiler the function SETUP_COUNTERS ( rtcc_state, ps_state ); will set up and start the timer. the rtcc_state variable sets internal timer or external counter the ps_state variable sets a prescaler or watchdog timer. The prescaler will lengthen the min. time base, this will reduce resolution but increase duration before count rollovers from 255 back to 0 . A watchdog timer will reset your program if it stays frozen for a specifed time. You can either set a prescaler or watchdog not both. The prescaler values range from 2 to 256 in multiples of 2. Example you are using a 4Mhz cyrstal thus instruction cycle is 1us as calculated above. With no prescaler the timer will count from 0 to 255 in 255us using a time base of 1us. (0 to 0 in 256us) With prescaler of 2 the timers time base is lengthend to 2us thus each count resoultion is 2us but now can measure to 510us=2*255 this procedure will set the counter to a value in the( ) set_timer0( a number you want to reset the countert to 0-255 ); this function will return the current timer count 0-255 current count = get_timer0(); //ex2.c measures elasped time of printf #include #fuses XT, NOWDT, NOPROTECT #use delay(clock = 4000000) #use rs232(baud=9600, xmit=PIN_A0, rcv=PIN_A1, invert) //define a conversion factor to scale results to 16 bit #define timer0_conv 128 main() { // decalare variables long t; //16 bit value for counts and corrected time //setup timer0 with resolution of 128us range = 32640us setup_counters( rtcc_internal, rtcc_div_128 ); while(TRUE) { //reset the timer count to 0 set_timer0(0); // timer0 is measuring time to send bytes printf("Hello Fuel Inj.\n\r"); //this will read the 8bit 0-255 count of timer0 t = get_timer0(); // this will convert counts to us. Each count = 128us t = t * timer0_conv; // this will round t using integer div. % is modulus // which is remainder if ( t % 100 > 4 ) t=t/100 + 1; else t=t/100; //this will print t as floating pt with units ms printf( "ET=%u.%u ms\n\r",(int)(t/10),(int)(t%10) ); } } From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 14:38:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA07830 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:38:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from mozart.bcit.bc.ca (aix4.bcit.bc.ca [142.232.189.164]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA07825 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:38:52 -0400 Received: from pfenske (usr145.bcit.bc.ca [142.232.188.245]) by mozart.bcit.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA10924 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 11:37:52 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 11:37:52 -0700 Message-Id: <199807011837.LAA10924@mozart.bcit.bc.ca> X-Sender: ffnsp955@pophost.bcit.bc.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: peter paul fenske Subject: RE: CPI Swap Question..from TBI Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Hi Larry I would leave the air valve alone, unless you really need it. Racer types generally remove it. The egr on the 97 is linear feedback. The 747 can't do it The 730 I used uses digital egr so one of projects is too make an adapter to use digital egr valve. Got one from wrecker with harness for 25$ so spend money there first before seeing Mr Good wrench Most J cars will also supply a IAT although most 4.3 cals for the 747 don't need it. Better not to hook up anything you need. I can send you a 4.3 cal if you need it. Remember you are gonna run this like the original. Anyways the 97 4.3 is quite nice. Got 650KMS on 20$ gas on a long trip at US highway speed 75mph. Also runs 15.0 which will embarasss a lot of new muscle cars. Only mod is headers and KN filter later:peter >connector, injector connector, and suprisingly, I need to hook up an IAT >sensor, and get a new EGR connector (since the CPI uses a different EGR >valve with feedback than the Astro TBI). Finally, I found I have to run >a relay to the air valve in the manifold...again no big deal, but now I >have to find a connector for the valve itself...oh joy. Do you have a >source on these connectors anywhere? I don't want to go through GM since >they charge $20+ *just* for connectors...grrrr... > >Thanks! > >Larry > >PS> How does it run? Are you happy with the performance? > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: peter paul fenske [SMTP:ffnsp955@bcit.bc.ca] >> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 1998 2:27 AM >> To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu >> Subject: Re: CPI Swap Question..from TBI >> >> Hi Larry >> >> Well I hooked up a 97 4.3 vortech to a 730 ecm in my S10. >> I essentially followed the wiring diagram fer a 91 camaro >> and used the 3.1 auto cal for the camaro. >> The 97 differs from earlier cpi in that 6 injectors feeding >> poppets are used instead of one central injector. >> These were saturated types which the 730 can drive >> >> I have afeeling the old cpi is peak and hold. >> Measure the dc resistance if it is 2 or 3 ohms it is peak and >> hold. >> >> So prob go to the 747 4.3 application. use the wiring as is >> make up a plug fer injectors. >> The tps on mine was the same as 2.8 3.1 style plug >> so you might need a different plug. wrecking yard or >> parts store should do it. >> >> All the other sensors are identical. >> >> You might have to adjust the base pulse but you might luck >> out and all will be fine. >> >> As for the air divider well a lot of people leave it out. >> It does give a bit of better low end torgue but at >> a cost of a wee bit of top end breathing. >> >> take care:peter >> >> Ps use your stock HEI. Don't have wiring, most public >> libraries do have mitchells. >> >> >Short of finding a factory Astro harness for use with this manifold, >> >what do I need to do to make the TBI harness work with the CPI. I >> assume >> >I'll have to repin the ECM connectors, and possibly get new >> connectors >> >for the sensors/controls on the CPI. Does anyone know how adaptable >> this >> >is? Also, can I use the same ECM, with perhaps a different Mem-Cal? >> > >> >FWIW, I am buying this manifold as a take-off from Howell EFI, and >> they >> >*do* offer a factory harness modification service...for around $550. >> >Being the frugal type, I'd rather do this myself. >> > >> >PS...does anyone have a copy of a 1992 wiring diagram/pinouts for the >> >CPI motor? I know it came in S10 trucks, Blazers, and Astro vans.... >> > >> >TIA! >> > >> >Larry Kurek >> > >> > > > From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 15:06:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA08236 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:06:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from rdgw.racal.com (rdgw.racal.com [205.138.43.50]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA08232 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:06:26 -0400 Message-Id: <199807011906.PAA08232@esl.eng.ohio-state.edu> Received: from hpexchange2.racal.com by rdgw.racal.com via smtpd (for efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu [128.146.90.64]) with SMTP; 1 Jul 1998 19:06:27 UT Received: by hpexchange2.racal.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:07:51 -0400 From: "Carboni,Noel" To: Jason Weir , "diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu " Subject: RE: Knock Sensor Location (Was: Scanner problems) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:59:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Jason wrote: >I thought that the knock counts went away when I >disconnected the sensor but they didn't..... I still get knock counts >with the sensor unhooked... Jason I hate to suggest the obvious, and I'm kinda jumping into this thread in the middle so I'm sorry if this was suggested before, but is it possible your wiring is picking up EMI from the ignition system? Does your sensor wiring rub shoulders with any of the spark plug wires? Are your spark plug wires good? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- ____________ //~~~~~~~~~~~~\\ // _____________\\ /~~~---~ | | ~---~~~\ /| /______\____/______\ |\ ( | / | | \ | ) Real 'Vettes | \============================/ | Keep the Lightning |\ \\[ ] |corvette| [ ]// /| Away from the | \/+========================+\/ | Millivolt Stuff |~==============================~| |_____| |_____| ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Noel Carboni, 1982 Collector Edition, 12.85 sec @ 111 MPH http://home.att.net/~ncarboni/index.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -----+ | MS D112, Office D1U20 | EMail: Noel_Carboni@usa.racal.com | | Racal-Datacom, Inc. | Phone: (954) 846-6744 | | Sunrise, FL 33323-2899 | Fax: (954) 846-3822 | | "We turn networking inside-out..." | WWW: www.racal.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -----+ From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 15:28:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA08547 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:28:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from beryl.sol.co.uk (beryl.sol.co.uk [194.247.65.190]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA08540 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:28:35 -0400 Received: from post.almac.co.uk (e1c1p26.scotland.net [148.176.232.26]) by beryl.sol.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA13907 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:28:12 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <359A8E72.8DBE58C4@post.almac.co.uk> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 20:30:58 +0100 From: "Andrew W. Macfadyen" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: Preparation of CO2 from Engine Exhausts References: <004d01bd96d2$3cafe1a0$99b4bfa8@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Exhaust gas is pretty corrosive stuff tanker ships use it to inert the free space in thier cargo tanks, you want to see what happens to the inert gas sytems and scrubbing plants 3/8 inch rubber coated steel plate can just disapear in a couple of months. From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 16:30:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA09445 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:30:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from wolfenet.com (root@frapp.wolfe.net [207.178.61.5]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA09441 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:30:18 -0400 Received: from gonzo.wolfenet.com (orin@gonzo.wolfenet.com [204.157.98.2]) by wolfenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA27677 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:30:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Orin Eman Received: (from orin@localhost) by gonzo.wolfenet.com (8.8.3/8.7) id NAA24395 for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199807012030.NAA24395@gonzo.wolfenet.com> Subject: Re: Scanner problems To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:30:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <359A3EF0.722A5915@bellsouth.net> from "mrvette" at Jul 1, 98 09:51:44 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu There was a problem... I unsubscribed the offending address. Orin, list admin. > To Bruce plecan........are you having the same problems as I am? something > about an incorrect addy from what looks like Germany..... > postmaster@edag.de ? GENE SLATER please reply.... From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 16:57:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA09805 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:57:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from mozart.bcit.bc.ca (aix4.bcit.bc.ca [142.232.189.164]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA09801 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 16:57:42 -0400 Received: from omnibook (usr120.bcit.bc.ca [142.232.188.220]) by mozart.bcit.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA15254 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:56:41 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980701135225.007e13a0@pophost.bcit.bc.ca> X-Sender: ffnsp955@pophost.bcit.bc.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 13:52:25 -0700 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: peter paul fenske Subject: Re: 4.3 cal In-Reply-To: <359A8E72.8DBE58C4@post.almac.co.uk> References: <004d01bd96d2$3cafe1a0$99b4bfa8@default> 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ICaWr5GwJQNPIAFMl68mGJak1gjFAiYIsdLEJwlMIAax0sMnAUqXpJa81g7FQCcJlg== --=====================_899351545==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" --=====================_899351545==_-- From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 19:08:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA11227 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 19:08:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from mail.clarityconnect.com (mail.clarityconnect.com [206.64.143.5]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA11223 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 19:08:37 -0400 Received: from LOCALNAME (209.150.253.29) by mail.clarityconnect.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.1); Wed, 1 Jul 1998 19:11:04 -0400 Message-ID: <359AE968.3D09@clarityconnect.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 18:59:04 -0700 From: Scot Sealander X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E-KIT (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: Scanner problems References: <01bda499$147056a0$59198fd1@nacelp> <3599A418.768AB61A@worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Jason Weir wrote: > Oh yeah and another thing, the scanner reads 10 hg at idle but a > vacuum gauge at the map sensor reads 18? again am I missing something > here? They are both reading right.... You have to keep in mind the reference of both. The scanner is reporting absolute pressure in the manifold, which is referenced from 0 inches of absolute pressure. So the scanner value is 10 inches of mercury above 0. The vacuum gauge is reporting reduced barometric pressure in the manifold. That is, reduced from normal atmospheric pressure of about 30 inches of mercury. Ideally the two values would add up to about 30. You have 10 inches and 18 inches, or about 28 inches total, a reasonable value. Scot Sealander Sealand@clarityconnect.com From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 20:08:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA11700 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:08:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA11696 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:08:08 -0400 Received: from malinda ([12.69.67.246]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with ESMTP id <19980702000737.PLEC23521@malinda> for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 00:07:37 +0000 Message-ID: <359AC8CE.D46D25DD@worldnet.att.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 19:39:58 -0400 From: Jason Weir X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: Scanner problems X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <01bda499$147056a0$59198fd1@nacelp> <3599A418.768AB61A@worldnet.att.net> <359AE968.3D09@clarityconnect.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Scot Sealander wrote: > > > They are both reading right.... You have to keep in mind the > reference > of both. The scanner is reporting absolute pressure in the manifold, > which is referenced from 0 inches of absolute pressure. So the > scanner > value is 10 inches of mercury above 0. > > The vacuum gauge is reporting reduced barometric pressure in the > manifold. That is, reduced from normal atmospheric pressure of about > 30 inches of mercury. > > Ideally the two values would add up to about 30. You have 10 inches > and 18 inches, or about 28 inches total, a reasonable value. Woah!!!!! I think I just went into sensory overload... Not sure I understood all that but it sounds good. ;) -- Jason Weir - 88 YJ - 258 / Howell TBI 145K and counting Fayetteville, North Carolina JTW Web pages at http://home.att.net/~jweir mailto:jweir@worldnet.att.net From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 20:51:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA12283 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:51:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu (coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu [128.146.90.150]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA12277 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:51:41 -0400 Resent-From: frederic.breitwieser@xephic.dynip.com Received: from webserver by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu via ESMTP (980427.SGI.8.8.8/940406.SGI) for id UAA19688; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:51:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from me (Administrators@localhost) by webserver (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAC00057 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 1998 20:51:09 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Resent-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 20:51:09 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Resent-Message-Id: <199807020051.UAC00057@webserver> Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980701202249.007b4430@192.168.1.1> X-Sender: frederic.breitwieser@192.168.1.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 20:22:49 -0400 To: diy_efi@coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Frederic Breitwieser Subject: postmaster/Pet In-Reply-To: <199807011208.IAA28249@esl.eng.ohio-state.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu >somebody get this mail server off this list please!!! Someone keeps testing my ability to make Eudora rules really fast !!!!! Frederic Breitwieser Bridgeport, CT 06606 Homebrew Automotive Website: http://www.xephic.dynip.com/ "When in doubt, use a bigger hammer" - From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 21:23:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA12574 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:23:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from wilhelm.baps.BoM.GOV.AU (wilhelm.baps.bom.gov.au [134.178.210.21]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA12569 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:23:53 -0400 Received: from sirocco.baps.bom.gov.au by wilhelm.baps.BoM.GOV.AU with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA06913; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 11:23:49 +1000 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 11:23:59 -0700 Message-Id: <01BDA5AB.E878E670.S.Baly@bom.gov.au> From: Stuart Baly To: "'diy_efi@esl.eng.ohio-state.edu'" Subject: Re: Twin injector system? Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 11:23:58 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Sandy wrote: >I have though of just raising the voltage too, but would expect a couple of >problem, meltdown and destruction of the injector as one ;-). The second, >is that it might open faster, but not close faster, also I have now to dump >a lot more stored energy back into the electronics so that may require some >changes in the protection and related circutry. I don't really know the >insides of the injector, if the fuel pressure is used to help close the >pintle (I think thats what its called), then a combination of increased >fuel pressure and higher peak voltage might do the trick. An interesting >thought, would be to take a 24 vdc powersource, and run an injector >(saturated style) with a 2/1 peak and hold current and see what kind of >minimum cycle time you can get, and then raise the pressure. I would expect >that this is all a wash, as with the added pressure the pintle will just >stick open, worth a ramble however. I don't think meltdown would be a problem, since power dissipation is a function of the coil current, not coil voltage. The idea is to drive the coil hard using the high voltage to ramp the current up quickly, then cut it back to a lower current, just as a peak and hold driver does. The end current is the same as using 12V, it just gets there quicker. The extra voltage will put some stress on the coil insulation, but no more than what happens when the coil closes. The stored energy will be the same, because the coil current at the end of the cycle will be the same as with a 12V system. Garfield said that injectors kick back like a mutha. All this idea does is to kick the muthas hard first. :-) Stuart. From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 21:33:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA12758 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:33:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from imo30.mx.aol.com (imo30.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.74]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA12754 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:33:47 -0400 From: ECMnut@aol.com Received: from ECMnut@aol.com by imo30.mx.aol.com (IMOv14_b1.1) id 7RFBa26166 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:20:06 +2000 (EDT) Message-ID: <732ab194.359ae047@aol.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:20:06 EDT To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: postmaster/Pet Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 170 Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu In a message dated 7/1/98 9:12:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, frederic.breitwieser@xephic.dynip.com writes: << Someone keeps testing my ability to make Eudora rules really fast !!!!! Hi FB, no need for filter anymore... menacing email server has ceased. When a bigger hammer won't cut it. try the bigger torch.. Mike V Chardon, OH From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 23:19:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA13737 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 23:19:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from m28.boston.juno.com (m28.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.186]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA13733 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 23:19:21 -0400 Received: (from cosmic.ray@juno.com) by m28.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DG5DLP2P; Wed, 01 Jul 1998 23:18:43 EDT To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 22:54:51 -0400 Subject: Re: Variable Cam Stuff Message-ID: <19980701.231817.3550.3.Cosmic.Ray@juno.com> References: <3597C2D0.234A@pacbell.net> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,2-3,5-9,12-15 From: cosmic.ray@juno.com (Raymond C Drouillard) Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu On Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:42:40 -0700 Sandy writes: >Saw the idea in the 60's hot rod mags where some gizmo was attached to the >timing gear of the cam and it did some magical adjustmet by letting the >assembly slip and slide to alter the cam timing. Never saw one in action or >knew if they really worked, the idea was good. > >Sandy I was thinking of using something similar to the centrepital advance flyweights that are used on a mechanical distributer. The biggest fly in the ointment would be the large load that is on a camshaft. Ray Drouillard _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 23:33:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA13996 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 23:33:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from mail.jax (mail.jax.bellsouth.net [205.152.64.21]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA13991 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 23:33:39 -0400 Received: from bellsouth.net (host-209-214-128-89.jax.bellsouth.net [209.214.128.89]) by mail.jax (8.8.8-spamdog/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA29057 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 23:33:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <359AFFD2.D28C47CC@bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 23:34:42 -0400 From: mrvette X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: Variable Cam Stuff References: <3597C2D0.234A@pacbell.net> <19980701.231817.3550.3.Cosmic.Ray@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu The simplest thing I ever saw for this cam timing thing was a Varicam mfgd. in the 60's it was patented, but the company failed I heard... it was a large pair of springs on an adjustable tension arrangement and an adjustable travel arrangement....just screw down the springs to delay retard and set the amount of advance retard where you wanted it....all located on the cam gear....simple as hell...don't know why company failed....they worked well in cars that had them.....in dragracing...GENE Raymond C Drouillard wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:42:40 -0700 Sandy writes: > >Saw the idea in the 60's hot rod mags where some gizmo was attached to > the > >timing gear of the cam and it did some magical adjustmet by letting the > >assembly slip and slide to alter the cam timing. Never saw one in action > or > >knew if they really worked, the idea was good. > > > >Sandy > > I was thinking of using something similar to the centrepital advance > flyweights that are used on a mechanical distributer. The biggest fly in > the ointment would be the large load that is on a camshaft. > > Ray Drouillard > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 23:35:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA14029 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 23:35:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from lnagate.foxboro.com.au (lnagate.foxboro.com.au [202.12.113.254]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA14025 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 23:35:39 -0400 Received: (qmail 16038 invoked from network); 2 Jul 1998 03:34:51 -0000 Received: from foxlnqtc.qtc.foxboro.com.au (HELO foxboro.com.au) (202.12.112.10) by gatekeeper.foxboro.com.au with SMTP; 2 Jul 1998 03:34:51 -0000 Received: from wayneb-nt (fwserver [202.12.112.56]) by foxboro.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA03497 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:34:50 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980702133451.0092e100@qtc-mail> X-Sender: wayneb@qtc-mail X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 13:34:51 +1000 To: diy_efi@esl.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Wayne Blair Subject: LPG EFI Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu I just picked up a copy of High Tech Performance No 2(Aust Mag) It carries an article on the LPG EFI system that I mentioned was on the web a few weeks ago. Mainly for the aussie guys interested i guess. wayne From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 23:53:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA14504 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 23:53:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu (coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu [128.146.90.150]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA14500 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 23:53:31 -0400 Resent-From: frederic.breitwieser@xephic.dynip.com Received: from webserver by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu via ESMTP (980427.SGI.8.8.8/940406.SGI) for id XAA19843; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 23:53:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from me (Administrators@localhost) by webserver (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA00272 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 1998 23:53:05 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Resent-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 23:53:05 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Resent-Message-Id: <199807020353.XAA00272@webserver> Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980701233426.007b12b0@192.168.1.1> X-Sender: frederic.breitwieser@192.168.1.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 23:34:26 -0400 To: diy_efi@coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Frederic Breitwieser Subject: Re: postmaster/Pet In-Reply-To: <732ab194.359ae047@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu >Hi FB, no need for filter anymore... menacing email server has ceased. >When a bigger hammer won't cut it. try the bigger torch.. Hey Mike :) I'm with you on that one. :) Frederic Breitwieser Bridgeport, CT 06606 Homebrew Automotive Website: http://www.xephic.dynip.com/ "When in doubt, use a bigger hammer" - From diy_efi-owner Wed Jul 1 23:57:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA14620 for diy_efi-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 23:57:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu (coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu [128.146.90.150]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA14616 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 23:57:46 -0400 Resent-From: frederic.breitwieser@xephic.dynip.com Received: from webserver by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu via ESMTP (980427.SGI.8.8.8/940406.SGI) for id XAA19848; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 23:57:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from me (Administrators@localhost) by webserver (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA00272 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 1998 23:57:29 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Resent-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 23:57:29 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Resent-Message-Id: <199807020357.XAA00272@webserver> Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980701235729.007ce2c0@192.168.1.1> X-Sender: frederic.breitwieser@192.168.1.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 23:57:29 -0400 To: diy_efi@coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Frederic Breitwieser Subject: Re: Variable Cam Stuff In-Reply-To: <19980701.231817.3550.3.Cosmic.Ray@juno.com> References: <3597C2D0.234A@pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu >I was thinking of using something similar to the centrepital advance >flyweights that are used on a mechanical distributer. The biggest fly in >the ointment would be the large load that is on a camshaft. Howdy Ray. I'm thinking aloud here, so don't take this as a fact. If you use centrifigual force to change the rotation of an object, you adjust its acceleration capability drastically. Rotate a 10lb bowling ball upon an axis, then rotate a 2' wide 10lb dumbell, and you'll see what I mean. The dumbell takes more effort to accelerate rotation (and more braking power to stop). That aside, if you have weights on your camshaft that can extend in and out towards the centerline of the rotational point of the camshaft, and you have equal weight all around, you won't load the camshaft bearings much, if at all (other than what gravity does). As the weights extend, they'd be balanced by their sister weight 180 degrees out of phase. Just a thought. Frederic Breitwieser Bridgeport, CT 06606 Homebrew Automotive Website: http://www.xephic.dynip.com/ "When in doubt, use a bigger hammer" - From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 00:02:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA14754 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 00:02:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from missouri.mcn.net (root@missouri.mcn.net [204.212.170.3]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA14749 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 00:02:13 -0400 Received: from mcn.net (pm5-182.billings.mcn.net [208.25.39.182]) by missouri.mcn.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA11719 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 22:06:06 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <359B0251.14D420F8@mcn.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 21:45:21 -0600 From: Shannen Durphey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: Northstar equipment References: <199807010436.XAA01821@mxserver.forbin.com> <359A7246.B8FB179@lucent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu April Hot Rod, and San Clemente, CA Ken Kelly wrote: > > About 2 or 3 months ago one of the Car mags ran an article > on a shop in the southwest doing Northstar based street Rods > with a Homemade Highrise Intake and carburators. I would > look to them and see where they ditch there takeoff's. > > I get Hot Rod, Street Rodder, and a few other mags. I think > it was in Street Rodder. If you can't locate it send me > Private email and I will dig through my back issues. > Ken > > Jennifer and Brock Fraser wrote: > > > > I've seen a lot of talk of people using Northstar engines for engine swaps > > in vehicles like Fiero's and such. I've also seen some rumblings about > > converting these engines to carb(s) to avoid dealing with the injection > > system. > > > > For a guy that wants to purchase a complete Northstar control system (ECM, > > sensors, ignition parts) does anybody have any leads on where to buy this > > as "take-off" or possibly unwanted parts? > > > > I know that the Northstar engine ECM is networked with the other on-board > > controllers. Does anybody know if the engine controller will function as a > > "lone box" without it's other box-friends to "talk to"? In what control > > trim (spark, fuel systems) are people using these engines? > > > > Thanks, > > Brock From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 00:05:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA14876 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 00:05:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from missouri.mcn.net (root@missouri.mcn.net [204.212.170.3]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA14871 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 00:05:07 -0400 Received: from mcn.net (pm5-182.billings.mcn.net [208.25.39.182]) by missouri.mcn.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA12764 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 22:09:01 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <359B0300.B823C493@mcn.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 21:48:16 -0600 From: Shannen Durphey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: holley TBI, 7730, and Howell References: <19980701124606.16869.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu For posterity's sake what's the going rate for this harness-and-chip platter? Shannen andy quaas wrote: > > well i did it. I ordered a harness and chip from howell for my truck. > It will be here friday. I am using the 1227730 ECM (not a typo!) > with electronic spark controlled HEI on a 454 chevrolet. I am using > the holley 900cfm 4-bbl TBI unit (with an IAC on it). The ECM from > the local junkyard was $50 removed. They had a bunch of them laying > around. Mine came from a 1989 pontiac 6000. PROM ID = ADDX (i > think...) > > Andy > > ---Slava wrote: > > > > What vehicles are using the 7747 and the 7730 ECMs? > > How march do the 7747 and the 7730 ECMs cost on a junkyard? > > > > Slava. > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 00:16:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA15004 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 00:16:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from mail.wgn.net (mail@mail.wgn.net [207.213.0.9]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA14998 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 00:16:15 -0400 Received: from bullwinkle (du174-pcap-nca01.wgn.net [207.213.5.174]) by mail.wgn.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id VAA03090 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:16:13 -0700 Message-Id: <199807020416.VAA03090@mail.wgn.net> X-Sender: sganz@mail.wgn.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 21:19:30 -0700 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Sandy Subject: Re: Twin injector system? In-Reply-To: <01BDA5AB.E878E670.S.Baly@bom.gov.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu This is the general idea behind the peak and hold injectors, but taked to more of an extreem. Sandy At 11:23 AM 7/2/98 -0700, you wrote: >Sandy wrote: >>I have though of just raising the voltage too, but would expect a couple of >>problem, meltdown and destruction of the injector as one ;-). The second, >>is that it might open faster, but not close faster, also I have now to dump >>a lot more stored energy back into the electronics so that may require some >>changes in the protection and related circutry. I don't really know the >>insides of the injector, if the fuel pressure is used to help close the >>pintle (I think thats what its called), then a combination of increased >>fuel pressure and higher peak voltage might do the trick. An interesting >>thought, would be to take a 24 vdc powersource, and run an injector >>(saturated style) with a 2/1 peak and hold current and see what kind of >>minimum cycle time you can get, and then raise the pressure. I would expect >>that this is all a wash, as with the added pressure the pintle will just >>stick open, worth a ramble however. > >I don't think meltdown would be a problem, since power dissipation is a >function of the coil current, not coil voltage. The idea is to drive the coil >hard using the high voltage to ramp the current up quickly, then cut it back to >a lower current, just as a peak and hold driver does. The end current is the >same as using 12V, it just gets there quicker. >The extra voltage will put some stress on the coil insulation, but no more than >what happens when the coil closes. >The stored energy will be the same, because the coil current at the end of the >cycle will be the same as with a 12V system. Garfield said that injectors kick >back like a mutha. All this idea does is to kick the muthas hard first. :-) > >Stuart. > > > From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 00:24:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA15158 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 00:24:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from m28.boston.juno.com (m28.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.186]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA15154 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 00:24:53 -0400 Received: (from cosmic.ray@juno.com) by m28.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DG5HCZE3; Thu, 02 Jul 1998 00:24:24 EDT To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 23:29:49 -0400 Subject: Re: holley TBI, 7730, and Howell Message-ID: <19980702.002410.11374.0.Cosmic.Ray@juno.com> References: <19980630021620.17713.rocketmail@send1a.yahoomail.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-12,15-17 From: cosmic.ray@juno.com (Raymond C Drouillard) Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu On Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:16:20 -0700 (PDT) andy quaas writes: >I am curious. Does anybody know anything about the Howell >(www.howell-efi.com) TBI conversions? I talked to them and they said >that they use the 7747 and the 7730 ECMs with the Holley 4-bbl >throttle body. They do not modify the ECM at all except for the PROM. > I am interested in buying their setup, so i bought a 7730 from a junk >yard and I have all the GM sensors and a holley throttle body. Any >advice or comments about howell or using the 7730 with the holley TBI >(and injectors)? The 4 injectors are the 85 lb/hr capacity. Thanks! > >Andy Howell burns a PROM based on your engine and configuration. Perhaps they will be willing to burn a PROM for you (for a price). How close are you to being able to hook the system up? Ray Drouillard _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 00:44:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA15461 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 00:44:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from wolfenet.com (root@frapp.wolfe.net [207.178.61.5]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA15457 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 00:44:32 -0400 Received: from gonzo.wolfenet.com (orin@gonzo.wolfenet.com [204.157.98.2]) by wolfenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA07610 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:44:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Orin Eman Received: (from orin@localhost) by gonzo.wolfenet.com (8.8.3/8.7) id VAA25728 for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199807020444.VAA25728@gonzo.wolfenet.com> Subject: Re: postmaster/Pet To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:44:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980701202249.007b4430@192.168.1.1> from "Frederic Breitwieser" at Jul 1, 98 08:22:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu > >somebody get this mail server off this list please!!! > Someone keeps testing my ability to make Eudora rules really fast !!!!! What are you doing with those rules??? I just had to put the following into my .procmailrc: :0 B * ^554 frederic.breitwieser@xephic.dynip.com... Local configuration error /dev/null If your intention was to bounce it back to the sender, it doesn't work and comes to me. Please check into why I got about 150 of these 'Local configuration error' bounces from you. Orin, List Admin. From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 00:52:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA15665 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 00:52:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from wolfenet.com (root@frapp.wolfe.net [207.178.61.5]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA15661 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 00:52:27 -0400 Received: from gonzo.wolfenet.com (orin@gonzo.wolfenet.com [204.157.98.2]) by wolfenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA08368 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:52:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Orin Eman Received: (from orin@localhost) by gonzo.wolfenet.com (8.8.3/8.7) id VAA05841 for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:52:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199807020452.VAA05841@gonzo.wolfenet.com> Subject: Re: postmaster/Pet To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:52:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980701233426.007b12b0@192.168.1.1> from "Frederic Breitwieser" at Jul 1, 98 11:34:26 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Administrivia: When something like that mail deluge happens, please _don't_ send a message to the list, send it to me (orin@wolfenet.com) or John Gwynne jgwynne@mrcday.com instead. Messages to the list just compound the problem... In addition, could you hold off any regular messages until the problem gets fixed (I know it's difficult). Orin. From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 03:13:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA16826 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 03:13:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from beryl.sol.co.uk (beryl.sol.co.uk [194.247.65.190]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA16820 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 03:13:32 -0400 Received: from post.almac.co.uk (e1c1p56.scotland.net [148.176.232.56]) by beryl.sol.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27143 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:13:13 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <359A96E8.592B6FD2@post.almac.co.uk> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 21:07:05 +0100 From: "Andrew W. Macfadyen" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: *way* off topic - chassis design References: <199807011118.NAA24736@gateway.ccii.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Ex Lotus F1 and Indy designer wrote a good primer on the basics of chassis design 25 years or so ago I can't remember the exact name but it should still be available from the some of the companies that specialise in old motoring books. Fred Phun also wrote a good book "How to make your car handle" (HP books PO box 5367, Tuscon AZ 85703) ISBN 0-912656-46-8 which gives good advice on roll centres, spring rates and the like. Wouter de Waal wrote: > I know this is *way* off topic, but I also know that at least one of you out > there will be able to answer this one: > > Where do I find info on designing a chassis for a mid-engined car in the > Porsche 914 power, weight (and hopefully handling) class? > > Thanks > > Wouter From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 03:39:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA17042 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 03:39:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from Rt66.com (mack.rt66.com [198.59.162.1]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA17038 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 03:39:28 -0400 Received: from pmf16.rt66.com (pmf05.rt66.com [206.206.85.25]) by Rt66.com (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id BAA13793 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 01:37:08 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <359B4711.1042@rt66.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 01:38:41 -0700 From: "Michael D. Porter" Organization: Barely Enough X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: *way* off topic - chassis design References: <199807011118.NAA24736@gateway.ccii.net> <359A96E8.592B6FD2@post.almac.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Andrew W. Macfadyen wrote: > > Ex Lotus F1 and Indy designer wrote a good primer on the basics of chassis > design 25 years or so ago I can't remember the exact name but it should still be > available from the some of the companies that specialise in old motoring books. I believe the book to which you refer is _Racing and Sports Car Chassis Design_ by Michael Costin. The book is published by Robert Bentley [Cambridge, MA], and amazon.com currently states that the publisher is out of stock, so it may be a hard find until the next reprint. The book is _very_ worthwhile. Lots of good anecdotal information, and a healthy appendix of formulae for calculation of lots of statics and dynamics related to racing. Has lots of that very good British line art and plenty of photographs, illustrating, principally, innovative Lotus chassis designs over the years which showed excellent stiffness at very low weight. Lots of detailed information on chassis and suspension. Cheers. -- My other Triumph runs, but.... From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 05:58:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA18275 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 05:58:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from image.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (root@image.dcs.warwick.ac.uk [137.205.227.66]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA18271 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 05:58:30 -0400 Received: from image (ian@image [137.205.227.66]) by image.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA00814 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:58:12 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199807020958.KAA00814@image.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:58:11 +0100 (BST) From: Ian Levy Subject: Electronic Boost Controller To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: UrRtn/JzrMVz8Fyt6wmCvg== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Hi all, I'm thinking about making a combined ALDL scanner and electronic boost controller (hey, there's not much room in my car!). Is the boost controller basically just a couple of solenoid valves and 1 or 2 MAP sensors, or am I missing something blindingly obvious? Cheers Ian. -- Dr. Ian Levy, Dept Of Computer Science, University of Warwick, Coventry CV4 7AL eMail: ian@dcs.warwick.ac.uk SMS/Phone: +44370 428779 FAX: +44370 429016 Urgent eMail: ian@emobile.co.uk Err, that's DOCTOR short, fat bastard to you! From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 07:18:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA18834 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 07:18:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu (coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu [128.146.90.150]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA18830 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 07:18:19 -0400 Resent-From: frederic.breitwieser@xephic.dynip.com Received: from webserver by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu via ESMTP (980427.SGI.8.8.8/940406.SGI) for id HAA20246; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 07:18:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from me (Administrators@localhost) by webserver (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA00256 for ; Thu, 02 Jul 1998 07:18:11 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Resent-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 07:18:11 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Resent-Message-Id: <199807021118.HAA00256@webserver> Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980702071615.007ad940@192.168.1.1> X-Sender: frederic.breitwieser@192.168.1.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 07:16:15 -0400 To: diy_efi@coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Frederic Breitwieser Subject: Re: postmaster/Pet In-Reply-To: <199807020444.VAA25728@gonzo.wolfenet.com> References: <3.0.5.32.19980701202249.007b4430@192.168.1.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu >What are you doing with those rules??? Hey Orin, Being a local kind of guy, all my Eudora rules do is selectively toss stuff into the trash can. It ABSOLUTELY SENDS NOTHING OUT, for that would be entirely rude :) >I just had to put the following into my .procmailrc: >:0 B You know, I had this friend named Orin.... once. :) Frederic Breitwieser Bridgeport, CT 06606 Homebrew Automotive Website: http://www.xephic.dynip.com/ "When in doubt, use a bigger hammer" - From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 07:33:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA18922 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 07:33:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from beryl.sol.co.uk (beryl.sol.co.uk [194.247.64.190]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA18913 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 07:32:57 -0400 Received: from post.almac.co.uk (e1c1p9.scotland.net [148.176.232.9]) by beryl.sol.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04640 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:32:35 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <359B6659.2115866E@post.almac.co.uk> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 11:52:09 +0100 From: "Andrew W. Macfadyen" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: *way* off topic - chassis design References: <199807011118.NAA24736@gateway.ccii.net> <359A96E8.592B6FD2@post.almac.co.uk> <359B4711.1042@rt66.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Never seen the Costin book -- sounds interesting -- the Len Terry (designer of the Lotus 38 Indy Car) book has a very similar title. Another good read is the Tony Rudd autobiography " It was fun" which gives real insights in to how BRM & Lotus worked. I can also recommend the Nicki Lauda book "The Art & Technicalities of Grand Prix Racing2 Michael D. Porter wrote: > Andrew W. Macfadyen wrote: > > > > Ex Lotus F1 and Indy designer wrote a good primer on the basics of chassis > > design 25 years or so ago I can't remember the exact name but it should still be > > available from the some of the companies that specialise in old motoring books. > > I believe the book to which you refer is _Racing and Sports Car Chassis > Design_ by Michael Costin. The book is published by Robert Bentley > [Cambridge, MA], and amazon.com currently states that the publisher is > out of stock, so it may be a hard find until the next reprint. The book > is _very_ worthwhile. Lots of good anecdotal information, and a healthy > appendix of formulae for calculation of lots of statics and dynamics > related to racing. Has lots of that very good British line art and > plenty of photographs, illustrating, principally, innovative Lotus > chassis designs over the years which showed excellent stiffness at very > low weight. Lots of detailed information on chassis and suspension. > > Cheers. > > -- > My other Triumph runs, but.... From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 08:18:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA19495 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:18:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from send1b.yahoomail.com (send1b.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.23]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA19491 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:18:31 -0400 Message-ID: <19980702121806.14967.rocketmail@send1b.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.67.56.239] by send1b; Thu, 02 Jul 1998 05:18:06 PDT Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 05:18:06 -0700 (PDT) From: andy quaas Subject: Re: holley TBI, 7730, and Howell To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu $125 for the chip, $325 harness (ouch), ECM is $125 if you buy it from them (mine was $50 at a junk yard). But it is a bolt-on procedure in my case. I didn't wanna sit around and screw with it all summer to get it to work correctly. Andy ---Shannen Durphey wrote: > > For posterity's sake what's the going rate for this > harness-and-chip platter? > Shannen _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 08:48:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA19831 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:48:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from mercury.csc.com (po2.csc.com [20.1.10.10]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA19827 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:48:29 -0400 From: jdzura@csc.com Received: from va-fch34.vtc.csc.com ([20.1.6.97] helo=csc.com) by mercury.csc.com with smtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu id 0yrimJ-0001rh-00; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:47:55 -0400 Received: by csc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP MTA v1.1.04 (495.1 10-24-1997)) id 85256635.0046201A ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:45:57 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CSC To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Message-ID: <85256635.00459F7C.00@csc.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:42:14 -0400 Subject: Re: Twin injector system? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Remember power is also calculated by current squared times the resistance. This would apply to the impedence of the coil also. S.Baly@bom.gov.au on 07/02/98 02:23:58 PM Please respond to diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu To: diy_efi@esl.eng.ohio-state.edu cc: (bcc: Joe Dzura/SED/CSC) Subject: Re: Twin injector system? Sandy wrote: >I have though of just raising the voltage too, but would expect a couple of >problem, meltdown and destruction of the injector as one ;-). The second, >is that it might open faster, but not close faster, also I have now to dump >a lot more stored energy back into the electronics so that may require some >changes in the protection and related circutry. I don't really know the >insides of the injector, if the fuel pressure is used to help close the >pintle (I think thats what its called), then a combination of increased >fuel pressure and higher peak voltage might do the trick. An interesting >thought, would be to take a 24 vdc powersource, and run an injector >(saturated style) with a 2/1 peak and hold current and see what kind of >minimum cycle time you can get, and then raise the pressure. I would expect >that this is all a wash, as with the added pressure the pintle will just >stick open, worth a ramble however. I don't think meltdown would be a problem, since power dissipation is a function of the coil current, not coil voltage. The idea is to drive the coil hard using the high voltage to ramp the current up quickly, then cut it back to a lower current, just as a peak and hold driver does. The end current is the same as using 12V, it just gets there quicker. The extra voltage will put some stress on the coil insulation, but no more than what happens when the coil closes. The stored energy will be the same, because the coil current at the end of the cycle will be the same as with a 12V system. Garfield said that injectors kick back like a mutha. All this idea does is to kick the muthas hard first. :-) Stuart. From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 08:54:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA19955 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:54:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from users.qual.net (users.qual.net [207.25.206.25]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA19951 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:54:45 -0400 Received: from dilbert (pix-211.nordson.com [207.206.59.211]) by users.qual.net (8.9.0/8.8.8/CICnet/IAG) with SMTP id IAA11350 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:44:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <007c01bda5b7$c1732930$657cbdc0@dilbert.nordson.com> From: "Gary Derian" To: Subject: Re: Variable Cam Stuff Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:48:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Another issue is that the torque on a cam is not consistent as it turns. A V-8 pushrod cam is not too bad but a cam for a DOHC 4 cyl or V-6 really jumps around as it turns. A variable timing device needs to accommodate that. I think a simple friction or centrifugal device would not control position well. Gary Derian -----Original Message----- From: Frederic Breitwieser To: diy_efi@coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu Date: Wednesday, July 01, 1998 11:57 PM Subject: Re: Variable Cam Stuff >>I was thinking of using something similar to the centrepital advance >>flyweights that are used on a mechanical distributer. The biggest fly in >>the ointment would be the large load that is on a camshaft. > >Howdy Ray. I'm thinking aloud here, so don't take this as a fact. > >If you use centrifigual force to change the rotation of an object, you >adjust its acceleration capability drastically. Rotate a 10lb bowling ball >upon an axis, then rotate a 2' wide 10lb dumbell, and you'll see what I >mean. The dumbell takes more effort to accelerate rotation (and more >braking power to stop). > >That aside, if you have weights on your camshaft that can extend in and out >towards the centerline of the rotational point of the camshaft, and you >have equal weight all around, you won't load the camshaft bearings much, if >at all (other than what gravity does). As the weights extend, they'd be >balanced by their sister weight 180 degrees out of phase. > >Just a thought. > > >Frederic Breitwieser >Bridgeport, CT 06606 > >Homebrew Automotive Website: >http://www.xephic.dynip.com/ > >"When in doubt, use a bigger hammer" >- From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 09:03:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA20109 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:03:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from ocfexch2.ocf (ocfexch2.ocf.anl.gov [146.137.76.38]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA20105 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:03:43 -0400 Received: by ocfexch2.ocf.anl.gov with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:06:22 -0500 Message-ID: <8B0E1273DCFFD111B35F0060083A3496011D89@ocfexch2.ocf.anl.gov> From: "Kurek, Larry" To: "'diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu'" Subject: 1987 4.3 Z engine ECM/PROM Verified Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:06:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Guys: FWIW, I verified the ECM in my 1987 Astro with the 4.3 W TBI Engine...guess what...yup, the good ole 1227747 ECM. FWIW, the prom ID is ABUL. I know the X-ref in eLudis's website lists this engine as unknown....so hope this helps! TTYL! Larry Kurek BTW...I assume I will now need a 165 or a 259 ECM to run my CPI setup? ANybody have a prom for a 1992 CPI motor they would be willing to part with....? TIA! From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 11:10:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA21212 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 11:10:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from puce.one.net.au (puce.one.net.au [203.17.224.29]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA21208 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 11:10:06 -0400 Received: from nicks-pc ([203.101.5.117]) by puce.one.net.au (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with SMTP id AAA841 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 01:07:04 +1000 Message-ID: <358969F1.5EE9@one.net.au> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:26:41 +0400 From: nluker X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: question about ceramic coatings References: <8B0E1273DCFFD111B35F0060083A3496011D31@ocfexch2.ocf.anl.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Kurek, Larry wrote: > > > Yes, it is a good idea to coat the inside of the pipes...probably more > so than the outside. Reason being, the heat contained in the exhaust > goes as far as the coating, and is then retained. If you only coat the > outside...it will look pretty, and reduce your underhood temps, but the > pipe will burn out quickly. I know this thread is a bit old but one of my mates is a head mech at a repair shop and we were talking about the thermal insulating tape you can wrap around your exhaust sytem.He first saw it on customer cars about 2 years ago and was very impressed about how cool it made the engine bay and how much easier it was to work on the cars; until he slipped with a screw driver hit the exhaust manifold with the tip of his screw driver and went straight thru ! Luckily he had a spare manifold in stock. When he took the old one off he found that the manifold (which was cast) was not rotted but had gone brittle and that he could punch holes in it quite easily with his screw driver. A while later another mechanic at his work did the same thing on another car that had thermal insulating tape on it. There thoughts were that the extra high temp that the manifold was know sitting at for prolonged periods of time had crystalised the metal and had turned it brittle and weak. was now subject to From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 12:08:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA22008 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:08:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from mail.wgn.net (mail@mail.wgn.net [207.213.0.9]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA22004 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:08:51 -0400 Received: from bullwinkle (du176-pcap-nca01.wgn.net [207.213.5.176]) by mail.wgn.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id JAA21476 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:08:49 -0700 Message-Id: <199807021608.JAA21476@mail.wgn.net> X-Sender: sganz@mail.wgn.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 09:12:02 -0700 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Sandy Subject: Re: *way* off topic - chassis design In-Reply-To: <359A96E8.592B6FD2@post.almac.co.uk> References: <199807011118.NAA24736@gateway.ccii.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Another book on handeling that is pretty good to get you up to speed, and is written for the racer, is the book by Herb Adams, "Chassis Engineering" from HP Books. Pretty simple in discussion of all the various aspects of chassing design and handeling. Good for a starter book. Sandy At 09:07 PM 7/1/98 +0100, you wrote: >Ex Lotus F1 and Indy designer wrote a good primer on the basics of chassis >design 25 years or so ago I can't remember the exact name but it should still be >available from the some of the companies that specialise in old motoring books. >Fred Phun also wrote a good book "How to make your car handle" (HP books PO box >5367, Tuscon AZ 85703) ISBN 0-912656-46-8 which gives good advice on roll >centres, spring rates and the like. > >Wouter de Waal wrote: > >> I know this is *way* off topic, but I also know that at least one of you out >> there will be able to answer this one: >> >> Where do I find info on designing a chassis for a mid-engined car in the >> Porsche 914 power, weight (and hopefully handling) class? >> >> Thanks >> >> Wouter > From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 13:35:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA22897 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:35:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from mozart.bcit.bc.ca (aix4.bcit.bc.ca [142.232.189.164]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA22893 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:35:53 -0400 Received: from omnibook (usr094.bcit.bc.ca [142.232.188.194]) by mozart.bcit.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA15716 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:34:53 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980702102951.007b43f0@pophost.bcit.bc.ca> X-Sender: ffnsp955@pophost.bcit.bc.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 10:29:51 -0700 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: peter paul fenske Subject: Re: 1987 4.3 Z engine ECM/PROM Verified In-Reply-To: <8B0E1273DCFFD111B35F0060083A3496011D89@ocfexch2.ocf.anl.go v> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Hey Larry and all Try the the 747 and calibration you got in your truck. The peak and hold drivers will run just about anything. Wire in the tps and CTS sensor Leave the air valve alone. If you end up changing base pulse it is a small change. Do this if your blms are way out Try the simple thing first. Other wise you can prob go to the 730 cal I am using but it requires a bit of a rewire at the ecm connectors GL:peter At 08:06 AM 7/2/98 -0500, you wrote: >Guys: > >FWIW, I verified the ECM in my 1987 Astro with the 4.3 W TBI >Engine...guess what...yup, the good ole 1227747 ECM. FWIW, the prom ID >is ABUL. I know the X-ref in eLudis's website lists this engine as >unknown....so hope this helps! > >TTYL! > >Larry Kurek > >BTW...I assume I will now need a 165 or a 259 ECM to run my CPI setup? >ANybody have a prom for a 1992 CPI motor they would be willing to part >with....? TIA! > > From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 14:38:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA23484 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:38:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from beryl.sol.co.uk (beryl.sol.co.uk [194.247.65.190]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA23480 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:38:39 -0400 Received: from post.almac.co.uk (e1c1p9.scotland.net [148.176.232.9]) by beryl.sol.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA20449 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 19:38:04 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <359BD3C4.9DDFB402@post.almac.co.uk> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 19:39:00 +0100 From: "Andrew W. Macfadyen" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: Variable Cam Stuff References: <007c01bda5b7$c1732930$657cbdc0@dilbert.nordson.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu I suspect that is why most production systems seem use oil pressure actuation to gain some damping. Gary Derian wrote: > Another issue is that the torque on a cam is not consistent as it turns. A > V-8 pushrod cam is not too bad but a cam for a DOHC 4 cyl or V-6 really > jumps around as it turns. A variable timing device needs to accommodate > that. I think a simple friction or centrifugal device would not control > position well. > Gary Derian From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 15:12:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA24063 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:12:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from mail1.bctel.ca (mail1.bctel.ca [207.194.28.67]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA24059 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:12:08 -0400 Received: from ycxftsuo (kmlp01m01-35.bctel.ca [207.102.34.35]) by mail1.bctel.ca with SMTP id MAA07481 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:12:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <359BDBF2.562D@BC.Sympatico.CA> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 12:13:54 -0700 From: "Clinton D. Coates" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-SYMPA (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DIY_EFI@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: intro Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Hi all, I am new to the list and new to the whole EFI thing. I mainly joined because I am hoping to find some way of designing(yeah, right!)/adapting/purchasing/modifying an efi outfit to fit onto the old Land Rover 2.25 litrel gas engines. I will now just kick back, relax and do some creative lurking for awhile until I don't make an ass of myself . Regards Clinton Coates From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 15:30:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA24410 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:30:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from pilsener.ucs.ualberta.ca (quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.19]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA24406 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:30:43 -0400 Received: from gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.12]) by pilsener.ucs.ualberta.ca (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA28864 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:30:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (mbeaubie@localhost) by gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA38826 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:30:42 -0600 Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:30:42 -0600 (MDT) From: Matt Beaubien X-Sender: mbeaubie@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca To: diy_efi@esl.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: 555 EFI again... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Hi all, I did some checking in the archives re:EFI_555 but was unable to find any actual circuits. A few people mentioned that they had built systems based around the 555 but their descriptions left this non-EE a little bit lost. Would anyone be willing to spend a few minutes and (re)produce some viable circuits? MAP or MAF based is fine, although MAP may work a bit better for my application. I'm not concerned with drivability (ie. AE, cold start etc) as it will only be used at WFO. I have access to a dyno and wide-band AFR measurement so your circuit will be fully evaluated ;-). Thanks for the help. Matt Beaubien mbeaubie@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 3 x 510 1 x 300ZXT From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 18:27:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA26106 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 18:27:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from blackie.cruzers.com (cruzers.com [205.215.232.2]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA26102 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 18:27:13 -0400 Received: from 205.215.232.17 (surf39.cruzers.com [205.215.232.39]) by blackie.cruzers.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA22149 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 15:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <359C0B27.8F@cruzers.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 14:35:35 -0800 From: Ludis Langens X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Diy_efi Subject: Re: Variable Cam Stuff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Frederic Breitwieser wrote: > But, basically is nothing more than adding a few links to the timing chain, > pinching it with two gears that are at a fixed distance, and sliding the gears > left and right across the front of the engine. By doing so, the relationship > between the crank and the cam adjust "on the fly". We used simple hydralics > to move the two gears, and it worked pretty good. This same subject came up on the list a long time ago. At the time, I had needed to loosen quite a few CV axle nuts, and had to deal with motion through a differential. Putting 2 and 2 together led to an idea of how to do variable cam timing: Attach a small differential to the end of a cam. The cam is connected as one (half)axle. The "drive shaft" input connects to the timing chain / belt / self-destructing-fiber-gear. Now connect a small electric stepper motor or solenoid as the other (half)axle. This motor/solenoid only needs to turn a few degrees. A computer can now control the motor/solenoid to adjust the cam timing. A one degree movement in it will cause the cam timing to adjust by one degree in the opposite direction. The chain/belt/gear still provides all the normal cam motion. Thus, if the computer fails, the engine will still run. (As opposed to a cam driven just by an electric motor/stepper.) On a DOHC engine, attach one of these gizmos to each cam. If the intake and exhaust valves are controlled by opposite cams, the intake to exhaust timing relationship can now also be controlled. -- Ludis Langens ludis (at) cruzers (dot) com Mac, Fiero, & engine controller goodies: http://www.cruzers.com/~ludis/ From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 19:46:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA26986 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 19:46:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from sparticus.bright.net (sparticus.bright.net [205.212.123.14]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA26982 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 19:46:03 -0400 Received: from nacelp (dark-cas2-cs-50.dial.bright.net [209.143.25.119]) by sparticus.bright.net (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.FNG_Build) with SMTP id TAA08342 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 19:44:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bruce Plecan" To: Subject: 1227165 8192 baud Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 19:48:15 -0400 Message-ID: <01bda613$e19b9060$77198fd1@nacelp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu As I recall the 165 come has been both a 160, and 8192 ALDL. Can someone give me an application of each, please. Cheers Bruce From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 20:37:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA27409 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 20:37:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from mail.clarityconnect.com (mail.clarityconnect.com [206.64.143.5]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA27405 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 20:37:20 -0400 Received: from LOCALNAME (209.150.253.78) by mail.clarityconnect.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.1); Thu, 2 Jul 1998 20:39:45 -0400 Message-ID: <359C501A.10@clarityconnect.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 20:29:30 -0700 From: Scot Sealander X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E-KIT (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: 1227165 8192 baud References: <01bda613$e19b9060$77198fd1@nacelp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Bruce Plecan wrote: > > As I recall the 165 come has been both a 160, and 8192 ALDL. > Can someone give me an application of each, please. Yes, the 1989 Camaro TPI.... Scot Sealander Sealand@clarityconnect.com From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 21:05:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA27683 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:05:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu (coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu [128.146.90.150]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA27678 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:05:48 -0400 Resent-From: frederic.breitwieser@xephic.dynip.com Received: from webserver by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu via ESMTP (980427.SGI.8.8.8/940406.SGI) for id VAA21547; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:05:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from me (Administrators@localhost) by webserver (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAF00249 for ; Thu, 02 Jul 1998 21:05:26 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Resent-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 21:05:26 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Resent-Message-Id: <199807030105.VAF00249@webserver> Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980702202436.007af6a0@192.168.1.1> X-Sender: frederic.breitwieser@192.168.1.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 20:24:36 -0400 To: diy_efi@coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Frederic Breitwieser Subject: Re: 555 EFI again... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu >I have access to a dyno and wide-band AFR measurement so your circuit will >be fully evaluated ;-). And so do I Matt :) Problem for me relates to time. Basically, you are creating a variable pulse width output triggered by the cyl's injector (to fire the second), with the pulse width varying on a voltage (i.e. Map --> Op-Amp --> 555 timer) Frederic Breitwieser Bridgeport, CT 06606 Homebrew Automotive Website: http://www.xephic.dynip.com/ "When in doubt, use a bigger hammer" - From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 21:05:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA27688 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:05:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu (coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu [128.146.90.150]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA27684 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:05:49 -0400 Resent-From: frederic.breitwieser@xephic.dynip.com Received: from webserver by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu via ESMTP (980427.SGI.8.8.8/940406.SGI) for id VAA21549; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:05:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from me (Administrators@localhost) by webserver (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAC00249 for ; Thu, 02 Jul 1998 21:05:24 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Resent-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 21:05:24 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Resent-Message-Id: <199807030105.VAC00249@webserver> Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980702202032.007ae740@192.168.1.1> X-Sender: frederic.breitwieser@192.168.1.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 20:20:32 -0400 To: diy_efi@coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Frederic Breitwieser Subject: Re: Twin injector system? In-Reply-To: <01BDA4E3.E6EFF960.S.Baly@bom.gov.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu >this list. So everybody humor me for a few moments... I'll humor anyone in exchange for coffee :) >to charge a cap to say 60V or so, then dumping the energy from the cap into the >injector coil at the start of the injector cycle), then the injector could be >opened faster and shorter pulse widths could be used. Sort of like peak and Aaah, the basic idea of a photography flash. Very clever indeed Stuart. I've used this principle before to create a 120V supply in a truck, and hard wired some blacklight tubes (okay, okay, stop laughing, it was a show truck). I think your idea has merit. Solder it up and let us know Frederic Breitwieser Bridgeport, CT 06606 Homebrew Automotive Website: http://www.xephic.dynip.com/ "When in doubt, use a bigger hammer" - From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 21:05:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA27694 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:05:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu (coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu [128.146.90.150]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA27690 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:05:51 -0400 Resent-From: frederic.breitwieser@xephic.dynip.com Received: from webserver by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu via ESMTP (980427.SGI.8.8.8/940406.SGI) for id VAA21552; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:05:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from me (Administrators@localhost) by webserver (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAB00249 for ; Thu, 02 Jul 1998 21:05:23 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Resent-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 21:05:23 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Resent-Message-Id: <199807030105.VAB00249@webserver> Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980702201821.007adc00@192.168.1.1> X-Sender: frederic.breitwieser@192.168.1.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 20:18:21 -0400 To: diy_efi@coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Frederic Breitwieser Subject: Mazz Bi-Turbo In-Reply-To: <199807010106.DAA18989@online.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Howdy Espen. Sorry for my delay in writing, been one heck of a week! >I have been thinking along the same lines the last days.I am planning to >uppgrade my Maserati v6 2.5l biturbo projekt .I t has a Electro motive tec1 >Efi with "super" software.320ccm bosch injectors.The engine is oddfier.So I had my girlfriend look through my library of books today, but we couldn't find what I was looking for - I have a car book somewhere that has a buildup on the Maserati 2.5L Bi-Turbo. Or a magazine. I remember... I think. Anyway, to respond to your issues, you do in fact have several choices. I think the easiest is to obtain, fabricate, or devise an adjustable fuel pressure regulator - whereby the fuel pressure increases with the boost level. This will give you a sliding scale of fuel quantity into the engine based on boost. There's another mailing list I'm on that supports the Buick Grand National, a V6 Turbo Regal-like vehicle. A lot of those guys run variable fuel pressure regulators with great success. Sizing it to your car might be a pain in the ass, and getting the springs right, but its probably less agrevation than re-wiring the engine compartment. >tought of using two maf systems like you have tried.GM ecus? I tought of Since you are using the Tec I Electromotive system, I would highly recommend NOT going to an OEM ECM like the GM. I believe the Tec I has a driving wire for a 7th injector - whereas you can shove one giant injector into your intake manifold before all the other injectors, and have it kick in at say... 3500 RPM, or whatever suits you. If this doesn't work for you, I know as the fact the Tec II electromotive product can do this very, very well, and can adjust the 7th injector's output with the level of boost. Another option, and more difficult to tune, (get your soldering iron out) is to create a voltage to frequency converter (a LM9400 or maybe a 555 timer if you are creative). Then, as your boost pressure increases, the circuit increases its frequency output, which drives a Mosfet, which drives the 7th injector. I promised several people a schematic like this, however I am slow getting to these things. My job drastically interferes with things that are important - like cars and schematics :) >each runner.(If the size of the injector is adjusted by an increase in >lift,then two small injectors >must be faster than one big?)I think the Electro motive system is not very Bigger injectors tend to respond slower to the applied voltage, but only noticable at higher RPMs, because the mass of the valve is increased. THis difference is very small, and at 4500-5000 or less, you probably wouldn't notice it. However, your mileage might vary. I chose to devise a system with two injectors per cylinder because I felt the following list are advantages: 1. Smaller, OEM injectors are everywhere in junkyards. Buy 20 and match 12 (for a V6) that flow the same. 2. Bigger injectors usually result in a crappier idle, depending on your ECM and how it compensates. 3. I *wanted* to be radical :) >user frendly(the "super" software)The car is so fast at the current ,its >impossible to I would agree. Their software is not overly user friendly, but its gotten better. >When back pressure is higher than boost you dont need sequential efi >anymore...maybe you have a nice solution? The absolute BEST exhaust with a turbo vehicle is no exhaust. The more back pressure you have the slower the turbos spin up to full speed (unless they are very small turbos). And interesting property of turbos, is they actually muffle the exhaust noise and reduce heat post turbo, therefore the installed mufflers don't have to be as restrictive. > Same fantasy!: Mine is F1 car with 4.2l Audi v8 >engine and transmision, with biturbo and street legal.....Must be the >ultimate toy....:-) I haven't built it yet. So far I have the engine done (v6, twin turbos, 480 HP and the block held together), with two injectors per cylinder. The chassis needs a tad more welding (like 2 years worth at this rate) >Why bother when you have turbo? (you can aim for tuning the pipes to give >you Why bother? Because 10 percent is 10 percent !!! > (maybe I could get some english spell check?) That's okay, I understood you just fine. Frederic Breitwieser Bridgeport, CT 06606 Homebrew Automotive Website: http://www.xephic.dynip.com/ "When in doubt, use a bigger hammer" - From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 21:05:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA27677 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:05:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu (coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu [128.146.90.150]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA27672 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:05:47 -0400 Resent-From: frederic.breitwieser@xephic.dynip.com Received: from webserver by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu via ESMTP (980427.SGI.8.8.8/940406.SGI) for id VAA21544; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:05:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from me (Administrators@localhost) by webserver (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA00249 for ; Thu, 02 Jul 1998 21:05:19 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Resent-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 21:05:19 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Resent-Message-Id: <199807030105.VAA00249@webserver> Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980702200358.007ab210@192.168.1.1> X-Sender: frederic.breitwieser@192.168.1.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 20:03:58 -0400 To: diy_efi@coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Frederic Breitwieser Subject: re:nitro/comp ratio In-Reply-To: <35982545.AC2F16F6@streetrodframes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu >In 1973 we went 271 MPH at Bonniville on a twin engine Norton motor >cycle streamliner with a 10:1 comp ratio running 98% nitro! Hey Jim :) Its amazing how the speed keeps increasing with technology! I think they are up to 450? 500? BTW, do you remember offhand the cid of the Norton? We run a Donovan block, which translates to about 600+ cid. Frederic Breitwieser Bridgeport, CT 06606 Homebrew Automotive Website: http://www.xephic.dynip.com/ "When in doubt, use a bigger hammer" - From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 21:05:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA27670 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:05:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu (coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu [128.146.90.150]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA27665 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:05:38 -0400 Resent-From: frederic.breitwieser@xephic.dynip.com Received: from webserver by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu via ESMTP (980427.SGI.8.8.8/940406.SGI) for id VAA21541; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:05:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from me (Administrators@localhost) by webserver (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAE00249 for ; Thu, 02 Jul 1998 21:05:25 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Resent-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 21:05:25 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Resent-Message-Id: <199807030105.VAE00249@webserver> Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980702202252.007ae740@192.168.1.1> X-Sender: frederic.breitwieser@192.168.1.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 20:22:52 -0400 To: diy_efi@coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Frederic Breitwieser Subject: Setting one on Fire. In-Reply-To: <3599964C.61@pacbell.net> References: <3.0.5.32.19980630211543.007ac100@192.168.1.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu >Dr. Gwynne has declared a truce in the flame wars - Self-immolation >might be a loop-hole, but please upload the details of your projects >before flicking your bic. Don't I always tell my tales? Frederic Breitwieser Bridgeport, CT 06606 Homebrew Automotive Website: http://www.xephic.dynip.com/ "When in doubt, use a bigger hammer" - From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 21:06:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA27730 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:06:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu (coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu [128.146.90.150]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA27726 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:06:14 -0400 Resent-From: frederic.breitwieser@xephic.dynip.com Received: from webserver by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu via ESMTP (980427.SGI.8.8.8/940406.SGI) for id VAA21556; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:06:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from me (Administrators@localhost) by webserver (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAD00249 for ; Thu, 02 Jul 1998 21:05:25 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Resent-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 21:05:25 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Resent-Message-Id: <199807030105.VAD00249@webserver> Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980702202206.007ae740@192.168.1.1> X-Sender: frederic.breitwieser@192.168.1.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 20:22:06 -0400 To: diy_efi@coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Frederic Breitwieser Subject: Re: Twin injector system? In-Reply-To: <35999ED7.3F97@pacbell.net> References: <199807010157.SAA16970@mail.wgn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu >Stepper motor drivers use such schemes, but the dynamic situation is >somewhat different. Suspect you can only launch the pintle so hard >befoe bouncing it off its stops, with obvious complications. Anybody >have hard data? Tell you what. I have a bunch of spare injectors that aren't close in flow to what I needed (they are severly clogged - hey, from a junkyard). When I get back home after this weekend, I'll fire up my power supply, and see how much they take voltage/current wise. Frederic Breitwieser Bridgeport, CT 06606 Homebrew Automotive Website: http://www.xephic.dynip.com/ "When in doubt, use a bigger hammer" - From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 21:12:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA27899 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:12:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from sparticus.bright.net (sparticus.bright.net [205.212.123.14]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA27895 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:12:42 -0400 Received: from nacelp (dark-cas2-cs-50.dial.bright.net [209.143.25.119]) by sparticus.bright.net (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.FNG_Build) with SMTP id VAA07989 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:10:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bruce Plecan" To: Subject: Chip ID Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:14:52 -0400 Message-ID: <01bda61f$fb107a40$77198fd1@nacelp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu In comparing the 1227808 to a 1227165 (aussy vs usa) ecms, the 808 is ?only? a 160 baud, and the 165 was both. The difference seems to be a chip (28 pin) that has 850 31, 64606 delco 466, written on it. Would this be a chip for communications?. Cheers Bruce From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 22:21:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA28699 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:21:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from erinet.com (mail2.erinet.com [207.0.229.19]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA28695 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:21:39 -0400 Received: from default (dlp851.dayton.eri.net [207.90.119.86]) by erinet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA02734 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:13:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <359C4017.7BFA@ERINet.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 22:21:11 -0400 From: Scott Schaaf X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: Nitromethane References: <199806292040.QAA20176@esl.eng.ohio-state.edu> <3.0.5.32.19980629182526.007aa660@192.168.1.1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Frederic Breitwieser wrote: > > >Are you sure that nitro requires a higher CR? I've heard the exact opposite. > Gotta remember,,, Nitro and alcohol allows a cooler burn,,, which, in turn, allows for some 'benefits' else-where. From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 22:22:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA28716 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:22:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from erinet.com (mail-in.erinet.com [207.0.229.27]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA28712 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:22:42 -0400 Received: from default (dlp851.dayton.eri.net [207.90.119.86]) by erinet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA03078 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:14:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <359C4055.2CAF@ERINet.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 22:22:13 -0400 From: Scott Schaaf X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: nitro/comp ratio References: <35982545.AC2F16F6@streetrodframes.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu JE Messler wrote: > > In 1973 we went 271 MPH at Bonniville on a twin engine Norton motor > cycle streamliner with a 10:1 comp ratio running 98% nitro! > What fun! > Jim Messler Give new meaning to the term "Crotch Rocket" From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 22:25:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA28796 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:25:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from erinet.com (mail2.erinet.com [207.0.229.19]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA28790 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:25:38 -0400 Received: from default (dlp851.dayton.eri.net [207.90.119.86]) by erinet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA04182 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:17:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <359C4107.605F@ERINet.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 22:25:11 -0400 From: Scott Schaaf X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: What SU stands for References: <35983476.2B35B73F@worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Jason Weir wrote: > > > Not sure what SU stands for but I have a good idea why them Europeans > > drink their beer warm, Lucas makes their refrigerators....!! > > -- > Jason Weir - 88 YJ - 258 / Howell TBI 145K and counting > Fayetteville, North Carolina > JTW Web pages at http://home.att.net/~jweir > mailto:jweir@worldnet.att.net Lucas just HAS NOT got the wiring down, yet, have they?? Seen more Euro cars with wiring problems than ANYONE else. Gives TRUE meaning to "Smoke Test". From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 22:37:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA29085 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:37:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA29081 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:37:02 -0400 Received: from malinda ([12.69.67.68]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with ESMTP id <19980703023652.NCAQ29455@malinda> for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 02:36:52 +0000 Message-ID: <359C4448.54AE6841@worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 22:39:05 -0400 From: Jason Weir X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: What SU stands for X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <35983476.2B35B73F@worldnet.att.net> <359C4107.605F@ERINet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Scott Schaaf wrote: > Jason Weir wrote: > > > > > Not sure what SU stands for but I have a good idea why them > Europeans > > > drink their beer warm, Lucas makes their refrigerators....!! > > > > -- > > Jason Weir - 88 YJ - 258 / Howell TBI 145K and counting > > Fayetteville, North Carolina > > JTW Web pages at http://home.att.net/~jweir > > mailto:jweir@worldnet.att.net > > Lucas just HAS NOT got the wiring down, yet, have they?? Seen more > Euro cars with wiring problems than ANYONE else. Not sure how they are now but after 2 MGB's a Midget and a 59A my mind is made up... Jason -- Jason Weir - 88 YJ - 258 / Howell TBI 145K and counting Fayetteville, North Carolina JTW Web pages at http://home.att.net/~jweir mailto:jweir@worldnet.att.net From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 22:43:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA29166 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:43:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from m28.boston.juno.com (m28.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.186]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA29159 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:43:09 -0400 Received: (from cosmic.ray@juno.com) by m28.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DG7VVAVC; Thu, 02 Jul 1998 22:41:30 EDT To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 00:50:24 -0400 Subject: Re: Variable Cam Stuff Message-ID: <19980702.224115.10878.0.Cosmic.Ray@juno.com> References: <3597C2D0.234A@pacbell.net> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,2-10,12-16,19-21,23-24,26-29,43-55 From: cosmic.ray@juno.com (Raymond C Drouillard) Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu On Wed, 01 Jul 1998 23:57:29 -0400 Frederic Breitwieser writes: >>I was thinking of using something similar to the centrepital advance >>flyweights that are used on a mechanical distributer. The biggest >fly in >>the ointment would be the large load that is on a camshaft. > >Howdy Ray. I'm thinking aloud here, so don't take this as a fact. > >If you use centrifigual force to change the rotation of an object, you >adjust its acceleration capability drastically. Rotate a 10lb bowling ball >upon an axis, then rotate a 2' wide 10lb dumbell, and you'll see what I >mean. The dumbell takes more effort to accelerate rotation (and more >braking power to stop). That's a good point. The extra weight will tend to make it a bit harder for the engine to accellerate. Also, there will be a greater load on the timing chain when the engine speed is increasing. > >That aside, if you have weights on your camshaft that can extend in and out >towards the centerline of the rotational point of the camshaft, and you >have equal weight all around, you won't load the camshaft bearings much, if >at all (other than what gravity does). As the weights extend, they'd be >balanced by their sister weight 180 degrees out of phase. I wasn't worried about increasing the load on the cam bearings. I was thinking about the fact that the centripital advance system that is used in a distributer is extremely sensitive to the load. In a distributer, all it is driving is the rotor and the relucter or points cam. If you bolted something like that onto either of the timing chain sprockets, you would be driving the entire valve train, distributer, and oil pump. You could probablly compensate, however. Also, you would want to retard the cam when the weights fly out. Since the drag on the cam would cause it to want to retard all bye itself, you would need to use springs to counter that tendency at low speeds, but make them weak enough so that the fly weights would retard the system at high speeds. It sounds like it would be very sensitive to the friction of the valve train. Change to a synthetic oil and it wouldn't retard as much at high speeds. Maybe that's why nobody has done it that way. > >Just a thought. > > >Frederic Breitwieser >Bridgeport, CT 06606 > More thoughts... Ray Drouillard _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 22:57:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA29367 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:57:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from vcc11.vcc.bc.ca (vcc11.vcc.bc.ca [207.102.127.11]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA29363 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:57:50 -0400 Received: (from jimd@localhost) by vcc11.vcc.bc.ca (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id TAA44284; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 19:57:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 19:57:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Davies To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: What SU stands for In-Reply-To: <359C4107.605F@ERINet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu On Thu, 2 Jul 1998, Scott Schaaf wrote: > Jason Weir wrote: > > > > > Not sure what SU stands for but I have a good idea why them Europeans > > > drink their beer warm, Lucas makes their refrigerators....!! > > > Lucas just HAS NOT got the wiring down, yet, have they?? Seen more > Euro cars with wiring problems than ANYONE else. > > Gives TRUE meaning to "Smoke Test". > Lucas Aerospace just lost a multi-million class action in Europe. Seems like they are consistent, anyway... From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 23:11:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA29618 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 23:11:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from gateway.subcorp.com.au (gateway.subcorp.com.au [203.28.5.10]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA29614 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 23:11:43 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by gateway.subcorp.com.au (8.7.6/8.7.3) id MAA12001 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 12:53:42 +0930 (CST) Received: from unknown(69.10.0.8) by gateway.subcorp.com.au via smap (V1.3) id sma011999; Fri Jul 3 12:53:40 1998 Received: from marge.asc.com.au ([69.10.150.5]) by zaphod.asc.com.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA04481 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 12:41:23 +0930 (CST) Received: by marge.asc.com.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BDA680.0C1CA330@marge.asc.com.au>; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 12:42:32 +0930 Message-ID: From: "West, David" To: "'diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu'" Subject: Nissan ECU mods Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 12:38:05 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Hello, Currently I believe that there are a few software packages (and development boards) that allow monitoring and modification of factory Holden management systems, delco units, using a laptop at a fraction of the cost of a fully programmable aftermarket system Does anyone know if there are equivalent packages for Nissan management systems. Kind regards David West From diy_efi-owner Thu Jul 2 23:35:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA30067 for diy_efi-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 23:35:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from mozart.bcit.bc.ca (aix4.bcit.bc.ca [142.232.189.164]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA30061 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 23:35:43 -0400 Received: from omnibook (usr002.bcit.bc.ca [142.232.188.102]) by mozart.bcit.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA10306 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 20:34:45 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980702202943.007f1100@pophost.bcit.bc.ca> X-Sender: ffnsp955@pophost.bcit.bc.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 20:29:43 -0700 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: peter paul fenske Subject: Re: Chip ID In-Reply-To: <01bda61f$fb107a40$77198fd1@nacelp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu OH DEAR Dear Bruce The 2.5L high tech? 4 only uses the 8192 baud application of the 165 ecm Well the 160 baud is actually using the heartbeat doesn't really need a chip. take care :peter At 09:14 PM 7/2/98 -0400, you wrote: >In comparing the 1227808 to a 1227165 (aussy vs usa) ecms, the >808 is ?only? a 160 baud, and the 165 was both. The difference >seems to be a chip (28 pin) that has 850 31, 64606 delco 466, >written on it. Would this be a chip for communications?. >Cheers >Bruce > > > From diy_efi-owner Fri Jul 3 00:03:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA30479 for diy_efi-outgoing; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 00:03:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from oznet15.ozemail.com.au (oznet15.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.121]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA30466 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 00:02:59 -0400 Received: from matt (slwol51p25.ozemail.com.au [203.108.231.41]) by oznet15.ozemail.com.au (8.9.0/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA10034 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 14:02:35 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <003601bda637$25109de0$29e76ccb@matt> From: "Matt Tomlins" To: Subject: Re: Chip ID Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 14:00:37 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Plecan To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Date: Friday, July 03, 1998 11:14 Subject: Chip ID >In comparing the 1227808 to a 1227165 (aussy vs usa) ecms, the >808 is ?only? a 160 baud, and the 165 was both. The difference >seems to be a chip (28 pin) that has 850 31, 64606 delco 466, >written on it. Would this be a chip for communications?. >Cheers >Bruce > > Bruce, Your thoughts on the 808 and 165 are correct. the 808 is a 165 without the high speed serial UART. as a result the 808 will only do the 160 baud comms Matt From diy_efi-owner Fri Jul 3 00:22:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA30785 for diy_efi-outgoing; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 00:22:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from mail1.bctel.ca (mail1.bctel.ca [207.194.28.67]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA30781 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 00:22:02 -0400 Received: from ycxftsuo (kmlp01m01-32.bctel.ca [207.102.34.32]) by mail1.bctel.ca with SMTP id VAA26887 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:22:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <359C5CD8.4C05@BC.Sympatico.CA> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 21:23:52 -0700 From: "Clinton D. Coates" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-SYMPA (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: What SU stands for References: <35983476.2B35B73F@worldnet.att.net> <359C4107.605F@ERINet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Scott Schaaf wrote: > Lucas just HAS NOT got the wiring down, yet, have they?? Seen more > Euro cars with wiring problems than ANYONE else. > > Gives TRUE meaning to "Smoke Test". As a land rover driver, I know all about the 'prince of darkness'. I am about 3/4 of the way towards completely de-lucisafying my '61 land rover, and every year the reliability just increases... There is a theory that LUcas electronics don't actually use electrons, but transfer energy using 'smoke'. If something goes wrong and the smoke escapes, then they don't work any more. Clinton From diy_efi-owner Fri Jul 3 00:40:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA31173 for diy_efi-outgoing; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 00:40:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from m28.boston.juno.com (m28.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.186]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA31166 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 00:40:52 -0400 Received: (from cosmic.ray@juno.com) by m28.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DG74ESPC; Fri, 03 Jul 1998 00:35:55 EDT To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Cc: diy_efi@esl.eng.ohio-state.edu Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:59:33 -0400 Subject: Re: Variable Cam Stuff Message-ID: <19980703.003533.11398.0.Cosmic.Ray@juno.com> References: <359C0B27.8F@cruzers.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,2-3,5,7,9,11-41,43-44,48-50 From: cosmic.ray@juno.com (Raymond C Drouillard) Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu On Thu, 02 Jul 1998 14:35:35 -0800 Ludis Langens writes: >Frederic Breitwieser wrote: >> But, basically is nothing more than adding a few links to the timing chain, >> pinching it with two gears that are at a fixed distance, and sliding the gears >> left and right across the front of the engine. By doing so, the relationship >> between the crank and the cam adjust "on the fly". We used simple hydralics >> to move the two gears, and it worked pretty good. > >This same subject came up on the list a long time ago. At the time, I >had needed to loosen quite a few CV axle nuts, and had to deal with >motion through a differential. Putting 2 and 2 together led to an idea >of how to do variable cam timing: > >Attach a small differential to the end of a cam. The cam is connected >as one (half)axle. The "drive shaft" input connects to the timing chain >/ belt / self-destructing-fiber-gear. Now connect a small electric >stepper motor or solenoid as the other (half)axle. This motor/solenoid >only needs to turn a few degrees. > >A computer can now control the motor/solenoid to adjust the cam timing. >A one degree movement in it will cause the cam timing to adjust by one >degree in the opposite direction. The chain/belt/gear still provides >all the normal cam motion. Thus, if the computer fails, the engine will >still run. (As opposed to a cam driven just by an electric >motor/stepper.) > >On a DOHC engine, attach one of these gizmos to each cam. If the intake >and exhaust valves are controlled by opposite cams, the intake to >exhaust timing relationship can now also be controlled. > >-- >Ludis Langens ludis (at) cruzers (dot) >com >Mac, Fiero, & engine controller goodies: >http://www.cruzers.com/~ludis/ I like that idea! It should work well. The only challenge would be getting it to physically fit the area available. Another variation on that idea would be a planetary gear system. Drive the sun gear with the engine crank, and use the planet gears to drive the cam. Move the ring gear back and forth (with a stepper motor or hydraulically) to advance or retard the cam. Ray Drouillard _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From diy_efi-owner Fri Jul 3 00:40:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA31175 for diy_efi-outgoing; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 00:40:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from m28.boston.juno.com (m28.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.186]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA31169 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 00:40:52 -0400 Received: (from cosmic.ray@juno.com) by m28.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DG74ESPC; Fri, 03 Jul 1998 00:35:55 EDT To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Cc: diy_efi@esl.eng.ohio-state.edu Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:59:33 -0400 Subject: Re: Variable Cam Stuff Message-ID: <19980703.003533.11398.0.Cosmic.Ray@juno.com> References: <359C0B27.8F@cruzers.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,2-3,5,7,9,11-41,43-44,48-50 From: cosmic.ray@juno.com (Raymond C Drouillard) Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu On Thu, 02 Jul 1998 14:35:35 -0800 Ludis Langens writes: >Frederic Breitwieser wrote: >> But, basically is nothing more than adding a few links to the timing chain, >> pinching it with two gears that are at a fixed distance, and sliding the gears >> left and right across the front of the engine. By doing so, the relationship >> between the crank and the cam adjust "on the fly". We used simple hydralics >> to move the two gears, and it worked pretty good. > >This same subject came up on the list a long time ago. At the time, I >had needed to loosen quite a few CV axle nuts, and had to deal with >motion through a differential. Putting 2 and 2 together led to an idea >of how to do variable cam timing: > >Attach a small differential to the end of a cam. The cam is connected >as one (half)axle. The "drive shaft" input connects to the timing chain >/ belt / self-destructing-fiber-gear. Now connect a small electric >stepper motor or solenoid as the other (half)axle. This motor/solenoid >only needs to turn a few degrees. > >A computer can now control the motor/solenoid to adjust the cam timing. >A one degree movement in it will cause the cam timing to adjust by one >degree in the opposite direction. The chain/belt/gear still provides >all the normal cam motion. Thus, if the computer fails, the engine will >still run. (As opposed to a cam driven just by an electric >motor/stepper.) > >On a DOHC engine, attach one of these gizmos to each cam. If the intake >and exhaust valves are controlled by opposite cams, the intake to >exhaust timing relationship can now also be controlled. > >-- >Ludis Langens ludis (at) cruzers (dot) >com >Mac, Fiero, & engine controller goodies: >http://www.cruzers.com/~ludis/ I like that idea! It should work well. The only challenge would be getting it to physically fit the area available. Another variation on that idea would be a planetary gear system. Drive the sun gear with the engine crank, and use the planet gears to drive the cam. Move the ring gear back and forth (with a stepper motor or hydraulically) to advance or retard the cam. Ray Drouillard _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From diy_efi-owner Fri Jul 3 01:53:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA32266 for diy_efi-outgoing; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 01:53:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from mail.xmission.com (mail.xmission.com [198.60.22.22]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA32261 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 01:53:01 -0400 Received: from logan30.modem.xmission.com (xmission.com) [166.70.3.222] by mail.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0yrymJ-0003Jo-00; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 23:53:00 -0600 Message-ID: <359C721C.8275EF2F@xmission.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 23:54:36 -0600 From: "Lynn R. Erickson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DIY_EFI@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: 88 Buick VIN 3 stalling, ECM? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Some background: 88 Buick Century wagon with 3.8 SFI(hah) V6, approx. 97k miles My parents bought it new in 88. They decided to get rid of it about 5 years ago because it had always idled rough, left them stranded once (crank sensor), and was intermittently prone to stalling when you let off the throttle at low speed around town. Figuring that an intermittent will eventually get bad enough to be continuous so that it could be diagnosed, I bought the car from them for my wife. My wife likes the car, and the rough idle and infrequent stall didn't bother me. _I_ wasn't driving it. However -- last week I drove it to Los Angeles and back(800+ miles each way). You haven't lived until you've had a car stall in the middle lane of Century Blvd. at LAX. I decided to fix the damn thing. Some symptoms: _seems_ to be heat related No problems at freeway speeds No ECM trouble codes During the sensitive time in LA, parking lot speed bumps would cause static on the AM radio and make the CE light flicker on. Still idles like sh*t -- never hasn't. Not just 90 degree V6 rough,it also misses. Diagnostics: All cylinders 140-150 psi compression cold. Hot? You jest! Not on my skin! New plugs and wires. Needed anyway. No change. New PCV. Needed anyway. No Change. 10" hg manifold pressure at idle. Is this normal? Reading taken from transmission vacuum line. Got a scanner hooked up today. Following readings are at idle. ECM PROM ID 1254 -- The ALLDATA CD shows a stall related TSB on this, but it isn't included in their (extra cost) TSB's. Sigh. ALLDATA is better than Chilton's, but watch out, some of their information is missing or flat out wrong (I got bit on a wiring diagram). Some readings: ALDL Mode Diag. Mode Backup Mode* RPM 1000-1100 650 675 Coolant Temp. 196 F 206 F 217 F Intake Air Temp. 156 F (why?) 86 F 84 F TPS 0.4 V 0.4 V 0.4 V O2 sensor 400-600 Mv 473-549 Mv 920 Mv* Spark Advance 28.6 deg 0 Deg 0 Deg IAC Position 51 38 49 Integrator 132 129 128 Block Mult. 133 133 113 EGR Duty Cycle 0 % 89% 79% EGR Switch Off Off Off Closed Loop On On Off Fuel Mix Lean/Rich Lean/Rich Rich* Learn On On Off *Sets O2 sensor rich error code. About all I can figure out right now is to try a new ECM and get the latest service release on the PROM. Anybody got any other ideas? TIA, Lynn /*********************************************************/ I may be stupid, but I ain't _that_ dumb. lre@xmission.com www.xmission.com/~lre /*********************************************************/ From diy_efi-owner Fri Jul 3 02:29:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA32676 for diy_efi-outgoing; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 02:29:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from pilsener.ucs.ualberta.ca (pilsener.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.19]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA32672 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 02:29:05 -0400 Received: from gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.10]) by pilsener.ucs.ualberta.ca (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id AAA24732 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 00:29:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (mbeaubie@localhost) by gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA53612 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 00:29:05 -0600 Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 00:29:04 -0600 (MDT) From: Matt Beaubien X-Sender: mbeaubie@gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca To: diy_efi@esl.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: 555 EFI again... In-Reply-To: <199807030554.BAA32282@esl.eng.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Frederic, > And so do I Matt :) Problem for me relates to time. You see, I'm leaving in a week for Flint, MI. I recently got offered a short summer internship there with Delphi and decided to take it. Hence, I have a "seal-imposed" deadline for this project. > Basically, you are > creating a variable pulse width output triggered by the cyl's injector (to > fire the second), with the pulse width varying on a voltage (i.e. Map --> > Op-Amp --> 555 timer) This is basically the type of description I found in the archive which prompted me to write my first message ;-). You see, if I had not been accepted into ME, I would have ended up in EE and would be able to run with the above description. Alas, I got my first choice and am in a state of head-scratching right now. Give me your circuits people, and I will put them to the test ;-). Is everyone scared of the possible results.... It's a turbo engine if it matters. Matt Beaubien mbeaubie@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 3 x 510 1 x 300ZXT From diy_efi-owner Fri Jul 3 02:52:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA00166 for diy_efi-outgoing; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 02:52:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from lnagate.foxboro.com.au (lnagate.foxboro.com.au [202.12.113.254]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id CAA00162 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 02:52:21 -0400 Received: (qmail 10197 invoked from network); 3 Jul 1998 06:52:12 -0000 Received: from foxlnqtc.qtc.foxboro.com.au (HELO foxboro.com.au) (202.12.112.10) by gatekeeper.foxboro.com.au with SMTP; 3 Jul 1998 06:52:12 -0000 Received: from wayneb-nt (fwserver [202.12.112.56]) by foxboro.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA16077 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 16:51:57 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980703165202.00974cf0@qtc-mail> X-Sender: wayneb@qtc-mail X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 03 Jul 1998 16:52:02 +1000 To: diy_efi@esl.eng.ohio-state.edu From: Wayne Blair Subject: Variable Cam position with a Diff Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Can you guys elaborate a bit. I'm missing how you change the relative timing. If I turn a the pinion of a 3.0:1 diff at 300rpm the wheels will turn at 100 rpm. If i stop one wheel the other will speed up to 200 rpm. I cant visualise the HW that will provide the phase shift between the 2 sun gears of the diff. I'm assuming the cam is attached to one sun/spider (the gear the axle usually messes in) gear and the cam drive on the the crown wheel. The other spider gear is locked to the crown wheel to provide drive constant drive? So are you providing limited relative movement betwen the spare spider gear and the crown wheel ? Have I just answered my own question ? Maybe partly. How do ya control the relative movement on this thingy while it is spinning around? Is this how the planetry system would work too ? Using a planetry of 2:1 if ya got the time wayne From diy_efi-owner Fri Jul 3 03:07:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA00360 for diy_efi-outgoing; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 03:07:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from mail.lig.bellsouth.net (mail.lig.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.50]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA00356 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 03:06:57 -0400 Received: from zippy (host-209-214-178-174.chs.bellsouth.net [209.214.178.174]) by mail.lig.bellsouth.net (8.8.8-spamdog/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA14273; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 03:06:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "M&D" <91coupe@bellsouth.net> To: "FC3S List" , Subject: EE question about duty cycle Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 03:16:21 -0400 Message-ID: <01bda652$7b2085e0$aeb2d6d1@zippy> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu EE help needed: It seems that I have some extra board space on the O2 meter I'm working on... and was wondering how to implement injector duty cycle measuring. I can figure out the PRF measuring easy enough, but how to combine that and PW to get a percentage I'm lost. Help! TIA PS -it looks like I can get the boards relatively cheaply (~$20 for the 2 small boards the design is composed of) so I'll let everyone know when it's implemented. Michael Harrington 91coupe@bellsouth.net and http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/downs/4038 91 RX-7 Coupe "Pearl" suspension blues 88 RX-7 T2 "Beast" Alive again! N3WJE Technician+ Ham From diy_efi-owner Fri Jul 3 03:09:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from mail@localhost) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA00384 for diy_efi-outgoing; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 03:09:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: esl.eng.ohio-state.edu: mail set sender to owner-diy_efi using -f Received: from mozart.bcit.bc.ca (aix4.bcit.bc.ca [142.232.189.164]) by esl.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA00380 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 03:09:03 -0400 Received: from omnibook (usr116.bcit.bc.ca [142.232.188.216]) by mozart.bcit.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA13712 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 00:08:04 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980703000301.007f1940@pophost.bcit.bc.ca> X-Sender: ffnsp955@pophost.bcit.bc.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 03 Jul 1998 00:03:01 -0700 To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu From: peter paul fenske Subject: Re: 88 Buick VIN 3 stalling, ECM? In-Reply-To: <359C721C.8275EF2F@xmission.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: diy_efi@efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu Hi Lynn Well I have seen quite a few buick 3.0s and 3.8s with the same symptoms. After replacing everything including the ecm et al we came to the conclusion there is a air leak. What are you MAF readings. Some of the stuff we came up was worn valve guides and vacum leaks. But to be honest idle was still not the best As a clinch we cranked up the idle spd in the ecm. good luck:peter >Some symptoms: > >_seems_ to be heat related >No problems at freeway speeds >No ECM trouble codes >During the sensitive time in LA, parking lot speed bumps would cause >static on the AM radio and make the CE light flicker on. >Still idles like sh*t -- never hasn't. Not just 90 degree V6 rough,it >also misses. > >Diagnostics: > >All cylinders 140-150 psi compression cold. Hot? You jest! Not on my >skin! >New plugs and wires. Needed anyway. No change. >New PCV. Needed anyway. No Change. >10" hg manifold pressure at idle. Is this normal? Reading taken from >transmission vacuum line. > > >Got a scanner hooked up today. Following readings are at idle. > >ECM PROM ID 1254 -- The ALLDATA CD shows a stall related TSB on this, >but it isn't included in their (extra cost) TSB's. Sigh. ALLDATA is >better than Chilton's, but watch out, some of their information is >missing or flat out wrong (I got bit on a wiring diagram). > >Some readings: >