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Test....

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From diy_efi-owner  Thu Dec 28 15:57:32 2000
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I got it. :)
-Carl

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From diy_efi-owner  Thu Dec 28 16:29:39 2000
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Today, Snowhite was turning 18. The 7 Dwarfs always where very educated and
polite with Snowhite. When they go out work at mornign, they promissed a 
*huge* surprise. Snowhite was anxious. Suddlently, the door open, and the Seven
Dwarfs enter...


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Seems to be working fine again !!


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The message sent to the list with the title "Snowhite and the Seven 
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Yes it is a virus, and a particularly sneaky one.

Gabe

mark koenig wrote:

> The message sent to the list with the title "Snowhite and the Seven
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Noorton reports w32.hybris.gen virus.
Shannen

mark koenig wrote:
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> The message sent to the list with the title "Snowhite and the Seven
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Hahaha" <hahaha@sexyfun.net>
To: <undisclosed-recipients:>
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 7:28 PM
Subject: Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!


> Today, Snowhite was turning 18. The 7 Dwarfs always where very educated
and
> polite with Snowhite. When they go out work at mornign, they promissed a
> *huge* surprise. Snowhite was anxious. Suddlently, the door open, and the
Seven
> Dwarfs enter...
>

Watch it folks....the attatchment to this message contains a
virus...beware..

Chris "Mighty Mouse" Capowski


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Wake up, You've got a virus.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 29 December 2000 02:29
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Today, Snowhite was turning 18. The 7 Dwarfs always where very educated and
polite with Snowhite. When they go out work at mornign, they promissed a 
*huge* surprise. Snowhite was anxious. Suddlently, the door open, and the
Seven
Dwarfs enter...

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It IS a virus....
Norton antivirus (Which I put on my machine two days ago... ;)  )
Came up with this...

This file: "dwarf4you.exe" was infected with the: "W95.Hybris.Gen.dr" virus.

The file was quarantined by Norton AntiVirus. Friday, December 29, 2000
08:18

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - VIRUS!!!!


The message sent to the list with the title "Snowhite and the Seven
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What does it do?

thanks,

Dave Eicher
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 7:25 PM
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> Yes it is a virus, and a particularly sneaky one.
>
> Gabe
>
> mark koenig wrote:
>
> > The message sent to the list with the title "Snowhite and the Seven
> > Dwarfs -" also has an attached .exe file.  It is my experience that
> > un-solicited emails with attached .exe files are probably viruses.
> > I have not had the chance yet to check this one out, but I'd highly
> > recommend running this through a virus scanner before running the
> > attached file.  Or better yet, just delete it without running it.
>
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Ah, get the list back up, and get a free virus! <g>

See: http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2653892,00.html

for the 'warning' about this one.

At 12:28 AM 12/29/2000 +0000, you wrote:
>Today, Snowhite was turning 18. The 7 Dwarfs always where very educated and
>polite with Snowhite. When they go out work at mornign, they promissed a
>*huge* surprise. Snowhite was anxious. Suddlently, the door open, and the 
>Seven
>Dwarfs enter...
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Hi Orin:  It seems as if that virus email was specifically targeted against
this list.
Who did it come from?
Mark
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> Go ahead and resume normal activity.
>
> Archives and/or digests are broken.
> I'll have to wait for the mail system
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Good point Mark. Very good point.

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Yeah--I've gotten 4 of them today--another one that
will "supposedly" be a screen saver (*.scr extension).
Any way to block this ?? I tried sending it back, but
it just bounced...

Lyndon
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> Hi Orin:  It seems as if that virus email was specifically targeted
against
> this list.
> Who did it come from?
> Mark
> ----- Original Message -----
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It seems that someone doesn't like us?

At 11:01 AM 12/29/2000 -0800, you wrote:
>Hi Orin:  It seems as if that virus email was specifically targeted against
>this list.
>Who did it come from?
>Mark

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Believe it or not, it may be the opposite. Most viruses (virii?)
use the victims inbox for new email addresses. Any email list
where a subscriber is keeping emails with good info from that
list. . .

BobR.

p.s. I also thought with the subject used, that it may have been
a directed virus. However, that subject/email was referred to
in the article (previously posted) about this virus.

Peter D. Hipson wrote:

> It seems that someone doesn't like us?
>
> At 11:01 AM 12/29/2000 -0800, you wrote:
> >Hi Orin:  It seems as if that virus email was specifically targeted against
> >this list.
> >Who did it come from?
> >Mark
>
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Yeah, you are probably right.  Just seemed like a big co-incidence
until I read the report.
Mark
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>
> Believe it or not, it may be the opposite. Most viruses (virii?)
> use the victims inbox for new email addresses. Any email list
> where a subscriber is keeping emails with good info from that
> list. . .
>
> BobR.
>
> p.s. I also thought with the subject used, that it may have been
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>
> Peter D. Hipson wrote:
>
> > It seems that someone doesn't like us?
> >
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> > >Mark
> >
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I was wondering a bit about MAF transfer curves.

I seem to remember people mentioning that some MAFs (GM perhaps)
had a voltage output that was linear with respect to airflow.

In the archives I found that someone else, using a Bosch MAF,
found that airflow varied as the square of voltage. (Or, voltage
output varied as the square root of airflow.)

Looking at the curve for a random Pro-flow MAF
<http://www.pro-flow.com/24flow.htm>
it appears that airflow varies as the cube of the voltage. (If you
plot V vs the cube root of airflow, you get a straight line.) As
near as I can tell these units are intended for Ford applications.

I wonder what other transfer curves are out there? Are there any
logarithmic MAFs?

   Chris C.

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Hey all,
I'm new on these lists... but I've sorta been around.
The name's Andrew Wakeling but call me Zak.

My father (Richard Wakeling) has been on this list for sometime and I've
always been interested with the topics myself but never had enough time
to read the e-mail, but now I've managed to subscribe myself and I'll
try to keep up with it all.

I know in the past, that I have been asked questions and the like which
I was unable to answer, but now that I'm actively on the list myself,
that won't be such a problem.

A bit about myself:
I live in Sydney, Australia. I'm 18. Student at University of New South
Wales doing B.Sc in Business Information Technology. I'm a self-taught
programmer of 9-10 years, and I specialize in C++ programming, however I
have knowledge in Java, Assembly, Haskell and I'm starting Visual C++.

I'm pretty into the Delco stuff... but I'm mostly interested in the
coding (esp Assembly). So I'll try to be active on the GMECM list.

I own a Nissan Pulsar Exa 1984 which has been converted to Delco. My
original idea was to modify it, but being a student and having no money,
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cars ARE quite troublesome to work on. This model is originally turbo,
however when I got it, the turbo was shot, so I was forced to take it
out, thus its NA.

I'm highly interested in turbo-charging, super-charging, insane levels
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(Hopefully, one day I'll own something like that...)

Neway, enough on me... If you want to know more personal stuff about me,
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> Hi Orin:  It seems as if that virus email was specifically targeted against
> this list.

I don't think so.

> Who did it come from?

Looking at the headers...

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We received it from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net.  This header came
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We can probably believe this one too.  Doing nslookup on 12.77.138.85
gives:  85.tampa-16-17rs16rt.fl.dial-access.att.net
So, my guess is someone in Tampa, FL is infected and they
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From: Hahaha <hahaha@sexyfun.net>
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These are typical for the virus and are mentioned in the
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appears to be a coincidence to me...  unless someone
deliberately infected themselves and let it run.

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Yeah, I see your point. Seems to be a big coincidence though. Of course, the
little guys at CSH could be into dis-information too. That's a joke folks,
nothing implied about Bruce....

Oh well, another day in America...

TK

----- Original Message -----
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> > Hi Orin:  It seems as if that virus email was specifically targeted
against
> > this list.
>
> I don't think so.
>
> > Who did it come from?
>
> Looking at the headers...
>
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>
> We can probably believe this one too.  Doing nslookup on 12.77.138.85
> gives:  85.tampa-16-17rs16rt.fl.dial-access.att.net
> So, my guess is someone in Tampa, FL is infected and they
> were online around 7:28 PM local time...
>
> From: Hahaha <hahaha@sexyfun.net>
> Subject: Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!
>
> These are typical for the virus and are mentioned in the
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Turned up on a dental mailing list I'm too, so probably nothing "personal".
 BTW, did *not* turn up on two other lists I'm on, so's its not me......}:}E

Barry

At 12:52 AM 12/30/2000 -0800, TK wrote:
>Yeah, I see your point. Seems to be a big coincidence though. Of course, the
>little guys at CSH could be into dis-information too. That's a joke folks,
>nothing implied about Bruce....
>
>Oh well, another day in America...


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Oh, jeez.  No wonder they haven't solved the DIS/749 issue yet.  I thought
they were into DIS information.

TK wrote:
> 
> Yeah, I see your point. Seems to be a big coincidence though. Of course, the
> little guys at CSH could be into dis-information too. That's a joke folks,
> nothing implied about Bruce....
> 
> Oh well, another day in America...
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> TK
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> > > this list.
> >
> > I don't think so.
> >
> > > Who did it come from?
> >
> > Looking at the headers...
> >
> > >From diy_efi-owner  Thu Dec 28 16:29:39 2000
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> >
> > From: Hahaha <hahaha@sexyfun.net>
> > Subject: Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!
> >
> > These are typical for the virus and are mentioned in the
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Help!
I was building a programable CDI kit  but the ferrite cores for the
transformer kinda broke into little bits.
Iv tried to find a replacement, but cant. Can I replace  something for it?
shaped out of iron or steel maybe?
could I drag a transformer from something else the same size, pull it apart
and rewind it to suit?
thanx heaps
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One of the Smith Kits?.
Can't help just curious
Bruce


> Help!
> I was building a programable CDI kit  but the ferrite cores for the
> transformer kinda broke into little bits.
> Iv tried to find a replacement, but cant. Can I replace  something for it?
> shaped out of iron or steel maybe?
> could I drag a transformer from something else the same size, pull it
apart
> and rewind it to suit?
> thanx heaps
> happy new year to all
>
>
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hi,

Where did you get the CDI kit?  Wouldn't the supplier have a replacement or
are you rolling your own?   I can tell you from painful experience that it's
not quite as easy as it looks.  The core has to be capable of handling the
magnetic field generated by the current through the coil.  If the core
saturates the inductance vanishes.  Most CDI ignitions use a step up
transformer technique that runs a switch on the 12 volt size at anywhere
from 5KHz up to 50KHz.  The higher the frequency,  the more efficient and
smaller the core within limits.

There are several core manufacturers that have formulas for determining core
size and permeability.  You'll need to know the frequency you're running and
the current you are planning on putting through the primary side.  The
secondary is usually set to create about 300V to charge up a 1.5uF to 3.0uF
capacitor.    How fast you need to charge it is determined by the number of
cylinders and the maximum RPM.  It's like the charger for a photo-flash but
those take 10 to 15 seconds to fully charge the capacitor.

Regards,

John Dammeyer


----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Capacitor discharge Ignition


> Help!
> I was building a programable CDI kit  but the ferrite cores for the
> transformer kinda broke into little bits.
> Iv tried to find a replacement, but cant. Can I replace  something for it?
> shaped out of iron or steel maybe?
> could I drag a transformer from something else the same size, pull it
apart
> and rewind it to suit?
> thanx heaps
> happy new year to all
>
>
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Sport Compact Car or one of the other mags., had a write upp about all the
current ign systems, and they are all running 480-520v on the primary....

Dick Smith Electronics in Australia sells a Kit

BTW, does anyone have the component layout?.

FWIW
Bruce


> Where did you get the CDI kit?  Wouldn't the supplier have a replacement
or
> are you rolling your own?   I can tell you from painful experience that
it's
> not quite as easy as it looks.  The core has to be capable of handling the
> magnetic field generated by the current through the coil.  If the core
> saturates the inductance vanishes.  Most CDI ignitions use a step up
> transformer technique that runs a switch on the 12 volt size at anywhere
> from 5KHz up to 50KHz.  The higher the frequency,  the more efficient and
> smaller the core within limits.
>
> There are several core manufacturers that have formulas for determining
core
> size and permeability.  You'll need to know the frequency you're running
and
> the current you are planning on putting through the primary side.  The
> secondary is usually set to create about 300V to charge up a 1.5uF to
3.0uF
> capacitor.    How fast you need to charge it is determined by the number
of
> cylinders and the maximum RPM.  It's like the charger for a photo-flash
but
> those take 10 to 15 seconds to fully charge the capacitor.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Dammeyer
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Warwick Anderson" <racingfit@goconnect.net>
> To: <diy_efi@diy-efi.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 4:04 PM
> Subject: Capacitor discharge Ignition
>
>
> > Help!
> > I was building a programable CDI kit  but the ferrite cores for the
> > transformer kinda broke into little bits.
> > Iv tried to find a replacement, but cant. Can I replace  something for
it?
> > shaped out of iron or steel maybe?
> > could I drag a transformer from something else the same size, pull it
> apart
> > and rewind it to suit?
> > thanx heaps
> > happy new year to all
> >
> >
>
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