From owner-diy_efi Tue Dec 13 17:24:24 1994 Received: by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu (920330.SGI/920502.SGI) id AA12630; Tue, 13 Dec 94 17:24:24 GMT Received: from localhost.eng.ohio-state.edu by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu via SMTP (920330.SGI/920502.SGI) for /usr/local/mail/majordomo-1.92/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l Diy_Efi -f Diy_Efi-Owner -h coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu -s -r DIY_EFI diy_efi-outgoing id AA12625; Tue, 13 Dec 94 12:24:21 -0500 Message-Id: <9412131724.AA12625@coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu> To: diy_efi Subject: Re: 67F687 development system & silicon systems In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 13 Dec 94 10:52:14 CST." Date: Tue, 13 Dec 94 12:24:21 -0500 From: John S Gwynne Sender: owner-diy_efi Precedence: bulk Reply-To: DIY_EFI -------- I'm forwarding this (Steve, please check that your mailer uses the reply-to address. Thanks.) ================================================================== In message , you write: | "Ciciora Steve" Wrote: | | | | | | Just finished talking w/ Tony Anderson at (714)731-7110. He | | dosn't mind | | being a contact person if anyone is interested in using the above | | chip. I was | | hoping he wouldn't mind if I gave out copies of the schamatic of | | the | | development system, and even the software. No luck. He said he | | didn't mind if | | I 'showed' the stuff to other people, but he did mind if I copied | | it in any | | way. It's not that hard to interface on the hardware end, so if | | anyone has any | | questions, I'm sure I could answer them. I have not looked at | | the software in | | detail, so I can't comment on that. Shouldn't be too much harder | | than writing | | a device driver for a video chip or something. | | Tony also has the data sheets digitized in some standard World | | Wide Webb | | format that can be freely distributed. Will some WWW expert help | | me figure out | | how to put it on the server? | | Thanks! | | -Steven Ciciora | | | | Did this ever make it to the WWW server? I couldn't find it. And is there a | | way to retrieve files via anon ftp, rather than ftpmail? | | --steve | John S Gwynne Gwynne.1@osu.edu _______________________________________________________________________________ T h e O h i o - S t a t e U n i v e r s i t y ElectroScience Laboratory, 1320 Kinnear Road, Columbus, Ohio 43212, USA Telephone: (614) 292-7981 * Fax: (614) 292-7292 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-diy_efi Tue Dec 13 17:27:14 1994 Received: by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu (920330.SGI/920502.SGI) id AA12649; Tue, 13 Dec 94 17:27:14 GMT Received: from localhost.eng.ohio-state.edu by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu via SMTP (920330.SGI/920502.SGI) for /usr/local/mail/majordomo-1.92/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l Diy_Efi -f Diy_Efi-Owner -h coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu -s -r DIY_EFI diy_efi-outgoing id AA12644; Tue, 13 Dec 94 12:27:12 -0500 Message-Id: <9412131727.AA12644@coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu> To: diy_efi Subject: Re: SAE J1850 & OBDII In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 12 Dec 94 12:08:43 GMT." <9412121208.AA06717@coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 94 12:27:12 -0500 From: John S Gwynne Sender: owner-diy_efi Precedence: bulk Reply-To: DIY_EFI -------- I'm forwarding this: ========================================== In message <9412121208.AA06717@coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu> , you write: | >From ORBAN@NRCAMT.IAMT.NRC.CA Mon Dec 12 07:08:40 1994 | Received: from nrcnet.nrc.ca by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu via SMTP (920330.S | GI/920502.SGI) | for /usr/local/mail/majordomo-1.92/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 | -l Diy_Efi -f Diy_Efi-Owner -h coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu -s -r DIY | _EFI diy_efi-outgoing id AA06712; Mon, 12 Dec 94 07:08:40 -0500 | Received: from DECNET-MAIL by NRCNET.NRC.CA (PMDF #12639) id | <01HKJPQSBBYO8WWB4L@NRCNET.NRC.CA>; Mon, 12 Dec 1994 07:04 EST | Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 07:04 EST | From: Peter Orban | Subject: Re: SAE J1850 & OBDII | To: DIY_EFI | Message-Id: <01HKJPQSBBYO8WWB4L@NRCNET.NRC.CA> | X-Envelope-To: DIY_EFI@coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu | X-Vms-To: NRCNET::IN%"DIY_EFI@coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu" | | ... | >Any help as to | >where to get either c to 68xx compilers or what the best route to learn | >68xx assembly would be appreciated. Thanks, | ... | | The ftp.ee.ualberta.ca ftp site carries most of the stuff from the | Motorola BBS. They have various cross assemblers. | On the HC11 the book "Data acquisition with the 68hc11" by Driscoll, | Coughlin, and Villanucci is a good starting point. | | Good luck, Peter | -- | Peter Orban | National Research Council of Canada | Internet: orban@nrcamt.nrc.ca | | John S Gwynne Gwynne.1@osu.edu _______________________________________________________________________________ T h e O h i o - S t a t e U n i v e r s i t y ElectroScience Laboratory, 1320 Kinnear Road, Columbus, Ohio 43212, USA Telephone: (614) 292-7981 * Fax: (614) 292-7292 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-diy_efi Tue Dec 13 19:43:04 1994 Received: by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu (920330.SGI/920502.SGI) id AA13366; Tue, 13 Dec 94 19:43:04 GMT Received: from nrcnet.nrc.ca by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu via SMTP (920330.SGI/920502.SGI) for /usr/local/mail/majordomo-1.92/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l Diy_Efi -f Diy_Efi-Owner -h coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu -s -r DIY_EFI diy_efi-outgoing id AA13361; Tue, 13 Dec 94 14:43:00 -0500 Received: from DECNET-MAIL by NRCNET.NRC.CA (PMDF #12639) id <01HKLHD8YMF48WVYN9@NRCNET.NRC.CA>; Tue, 13 Dec 1994 13:26 EST Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 13:26 EST From: Peter Orban Subject: Re: Postscript To: DIY_EFI Message-Id: <01HKLHD8YMF48WVYN9@NRCNET.NRC.CA> X-Envelope-To: DIY_EFI@coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu X-Vms-To: NRCNET::IN%"DIY_EFI@coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu" Sender: owner-diy_efi Precedence: bulk Reply-To: DIY_EFI >Quick question... Is there a way to display the postscript files found here on >a pc? Also, is there a way to print them on a Non-postscript printer >(conversion utility to graphics) Ghostscript is supposed to do that, at least it does on a Mac. There is also a PC version of it on the simtel archives: Directory pub/msdos/postscript/ Filename Type Length Date Description ============================================== ... gs261286.zip B 212181 930612 Ghostscript v2.6.1, EXE for 286 machines gs261386.zip B 404280 930612 Ghostscript v2.6.1, 386/486 EXE w/extended mem ... I have not tryed though. Good luck, Peter -- Peter Orban National Research Council of Canada Internet: peter.orban@nrc.ca From owner-diy_efi Wed Dec 14 00:12:56 1994 Received: by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu (920330.SGI/920502.SGI) id AA00656; Wed, 14 Dec 94 00:12:56 GMT Received: from merlin.nando.net by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu via SMTP (920330.SGI/920502.SGI) for /usr/local/mail/majordomo-1.92/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l Diy_Efi -f Diy_Efi-Owner -h coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu -s -r DIY_EFI diy_efi-outgoing id AA00651; Tue, 13 Dec 94 19:12:51 -0500 Received: by merlin.nando.net (4.1/davel-nando/june94) id AA15755; Tue, 13 Dec 94 19:11:44 EST Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 19:11:43 -0500 (EST) From: David Cooley To: DIY_EFI Cc: diy_efi Subject: Re: SAE J1850 & OBDII In-Reply-To: <9412131727.AA12644@coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-diy_efi Precedence: bulk Reply-To: DIY_EFI On Tue, 13 Dec 1994, John S Gwynne wrote: > | >Any help as to > | >where to get either c to 68xx compilers or what the best route to learn > | >68xx assembly would be appreciated. Thanks, > | ... > | > | The ftp.ee.ualberta.ca ftp site carries most of the stuff from the > | Motorola BBS. They have various cross assemblers. > | On the HC11 the book "Data acquisition with the 68hc11" by Driscoll, > | Coughlin, and Villanucci is a good starting point. > | > | Good luck, Peter > | -- > | Peter Orban > | National Research Council of Canada > | Internet: orban@nrcamt.nrc.ca > | > | > > John S Gwynne > Gwynne.1@osu.edu > _______________________________________________________________________________ > T h e O h i o - S t a t e U n i v e r s i t y > ElectroScience Laboratory, 1320 Kinnear Road, Columbus, Ohio 43212, USA > Telephone: (614) 292-7981 * Fax: (614) 292-7292 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Thanks, I'll check it out and see if BookStar can order the book! Dave From owner-diy_efi Wed Dec 14 04:42:24 1994 Received: by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu (920330.SGI/920502.SGI) id AA12818; Wed, 14 Dec 94 04:42:24 GMT Received: from localhost.eng.ohio-state.edu by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu via SMTP (920330.SGI/920502.SGI) for /usr/local/mail/majordomo-1.92/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l Diy_Efi -f Diy_Efi-Owner -h coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu -s -r DIY_EFI diy_efi-outgoing id AA12813; Tue, 13 Dec 94 23:42:21 -0500 Message-Id: <9412140442.AA12813@coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu> To: diy_efi Cc: jsg Subject: gcc and m68hc11 -- oops... Date: Tue, 13 Dec 94 23:42:20 -0500 From: John S Gwynne Sender: owner-diy_efi Precedence: bulk Reply-To: DIY_EFI -------- When I posted my comments a day or two ago of the Coactive Aesthetics gcc port, I did not know a new release came out on the 9th of this month. This version has improvements that reduce code size by 30-40% from the beta release I had. Some comparative data that was given with the distribution: compiler size -------- ------- gcc (old) 24326 gcc (snapshot) 16166 gcc (new) 15030 icc 14269 archimedes 12975 (this is an _old_ version) and the output of the test program that I posted before (with -O4) ------- cut here ------- 1 ;;;----------------------------------------- 2 ;;; Start MC6811 gcc assembly output 3 ;;; gcc compiler compiled on TBD 4 ;;; OPTIONS: -mlong_branch optimize inline-functions 5 ;;; OPTIONS: peephole !omit_frame_pointer !signed-char 6 ;;; Source: t.c 7 ;;; Destination: /usr/tmp/cca12360.s 8 ;;; Compiled: Tue Dec 13 23:24:26 1994 9 ;;; (META)compiled by GNU C version 2.6.3. 10 ;;;----------------------------------------- 11 .module t.c 12 13 ;;; 14 ;;; reload_alter_stack_offsets: altered_frame_size = 0 bytes 15 ;;; 16 .area _CODE 17 .globl _main 0000 18 _main: 19 ;;;----------------------------------------- 20 ;;; PROLOGUE for main 21 ;;;----------------------------------------- 0000 18 3C 22 pshy ; Save stack frame 0002 18 30 23 tsy ; Set current stack frame 0004 DE 00 24 ldx *ZD5 0006 3C 25 pshx ; pushed register *ZD5 0007 DE 00 26 ldx *ZD6 0009 3C 27 pshx ; pushed register *ZD6 28 ;;;END PROLOGUE 000A BD 00 00 29 jsr ___main ; CALL: (VOIDmode) ___main (0 bytes) 000D CC 00 09 30 ldd #9 0010 DD 00 31 std *ZD5 ; movhi: #9 -> *ZD5 0012 CC 00 12 32 ldd #_a+18 0015 DD 00 33 std *ZD6 ; movhi: #_a+18 -> *ZD6 0017 34 L11: 0017 DC 00 35 ldd *ZD5 0019 DE 00 36 ldx *ZD6 001B ED 00 37 std 0,x ; movhi: *ZD5 -> 0,x 001D DC 00 38 ldd *ZD6 001F C3 FF FE 39 addd #-2 0022 DD 00 40 std *ZD6 ; addhi3: *ZD6 by #-2 -> *ZD6 0024 DC 00 41 ldd *ZD5 0026 C3 FF FF 42 addd #-1 0029 DD 00 43 std *ZD5 ; addhi3: *ZD5 by #-1 -> *ZD5 002B 2D 03 44 blt .+5 002D 7E 00 17 45 jmp L11 ; (bge) long branch 46 ;;;EPILOGUE 0030 38 47 pulx ; Pulling register *ZD6 0031 DF 00 48 stx *ZD6 0033 38 49 pulx ; Pulling register *ZD5 0034 DF 00 50 stx *ZD5 0036 18 38 51 puly ; Restore stack frame 0038 39 52 rts ; return from function 53 ;;;----------------------------------------- 54 ;;; END EPILOGUE for main 55 ;;;----------------------------------------- 56 .area _BSS 57 .globl _a 0000 58 _a: .blkb 20 59 ; END ------- cut here ------- As you can see, this is much better... nowhere near as good as the 68k optimization, but usable. My apologies for the inaccurate data I post the other day. John S Gwynne Gwynne.1@osu.edu _______________________________________________________________________________ T h e O h i o - S t a t e U n i v e r s i t y ElectroScience Laboratory, 1320 Kinnear Road, Columbus, Ohio 43212, USA Telephone: (614) 292-7981 * Fax: (614) 292-7292 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-diy_efi Wed Dec 14 05:24:07 1994 Received: by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu (920330.SGI/920502.SGI) id AA13604; Wed, 14 Dec 94 05:24:07 GMT Received: from aztec.co.za by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu via SMTP (920330.SGI/920502.SGI) for /usr/local/mail/majordomo-1.92/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l Diy_Efi -f Diy_Efi-Owner -h coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu -s -r DIY_EFI diy_efi-outgoing id AA13599; Wed, 14 Dec 94 00:23:59 -0500 Received: by aztec.co.za (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0rHmAm-000KeUC; Wed, 14 Dec 94 07:22 EET Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 07:22:44 +0200 (SAT) From: Wouter de Waal Subject: Re: Postscript To: DIY_EFI In-Reply-To: <01HKLHD8YMF48WVYN9@NRCNET.NRC.CA> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-diy_efi Precedence: bulk Reply-To: DIY_EFI On Tue, 13 Dec 1994, Peter Orban wrote: > >Quick question... Is there a way to display the postscript files found here on > >a pc? Also, is there a way to print them on a Non-postscript printer > >(conversion utility to graphics) > > Ghostscript is supposed to do that, at least it does on a Mac. > There is also a PC version of it on the simtel archives: > ... > > I have not tryed though. > Works fine for me. The PC version. Recommended. Wouter From owner-diy_efi Wed Dec 14 22:12:47 1994 Received: by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu (920330.SGI/920502.SGI) id AA12377; Wed, 14 Dec 94 22:12:47 GMT Received: from smtp.utexas.edu by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu via SMTP (920330.SGI/920502.SGI) for /usr/local/mail/majordomo-1.92/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l Diy_Efi -f Diy_Efi-Owner -h coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu -s -r DIY_EFI diy_efi-outgoing id AA12372; Wed, 14 Dec 94 17:12:44 -0500 Received: from mail.utexas.edu (mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.1]) by smtp.utexas.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA22214 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 1994 16:07:40 -0600 From: BigBrother@mail.utexas.edu Received: from [128.83.128.161] (slip-14-1.ots.utexas.edu [128.83.128.161]) by mail.utexas.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA17723 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 1994 16:04:52 -0600 Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 16:04:52 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: DIY_EFI Subject: Potting compound in ECMs Sender: owner-diy_efi Precedence: bulk Reply-To: DIY_EFI >The 94 and newer GM vehicles have Potted ECM's with Flash EEprom. It is >the first step. Ford's have been like this for a while as have chrysller. Yeah, I've seen the potting compound in Chrystler ECMs. I didn't know Ford is using potted ECMs as well. What processor do new GM ECMs use? I heard they use the 68332, which has the 64k of Flash EEPROM, but Motorola swears the part is out of production, due to problems with the EEPROM. By the way, does anybody know where to get that potting compound? It looks like really neat stuff! Complete protection from water, humidity, condensation, etc. However, it must have special static properties to avoid destruction of all the chips it covers. From owner-diy_efi Thu Dec 15 02:21:07 1994 Received: by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu (920330.SGI/920502.SGI) id AA29068; Thu, 15 Dec 94 02:21:07 GMT Received: from merlin.nando.net by coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu via SMTP (920330.SGI/920502.SGI) for /usr/local/mail/majordomo-1.92/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l Diy_Efi -f Diy_Efi-Owner -h coulomb.eng.ohio-state.edu -s -r DIY_EFI diy_efi-outgoing id AA29063; Wed, 14 Dec 94 21:21:00 -0500 Received: by merlin.nando.net (4.1/davel-nando/june94) id AA22965; Wed, 14 Dec 94 21:19:56 EST Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 21:19:55 -0500 (EST) From: David Cooley To: DIY_EFI Subject: 68HC11 proto board Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-diy_efi Precedence: bulk Reply-To: DIY_EFI Hello all, There is a 68HC11 prototyping board with fortran and C compiler and downloading software (for PC) available for 47.00 plus shipping. Send Internet E-Mail to zchris@eskimo.com and he will send the ASCII info for the kits available with pricing. I just got mine for prototyping my J1850 interface host, and it IS complete... Couldn't believe the price either... Motorola quoted me over 250.00 for a basic board! Later, Dave