Re: Adapting GM ECM to Chrysler Turbo

["Programmer" <nwester@eidnet.org>]

Do you know the last 4 digits on your SBEC ? I may have a perf
program already done...this could save you miles of headaches...

Lyndon.
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas McCabe <mccabet@mediaone.net>
To: gmecm@diy-efi.org <gmecm@diy-efi.org>; gmecm@diy-efi.org
<gmecm@diy-efi.org>
Date: January 28, 2000 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: Adapting GM ECM to Chrysler Turbo


>Thanks for the replies,
>
>I have no problem using an external regulator for the alternator.  As a
>mater of fact, it is easy to hook up.  I expected having to use some of the
>GM sensors. What are the relays?  Chrysler had the fan, ASD, and A/C.  It
>also had  Canister Purge and Wastegate control.  The wastegate is manually
>controlled and I really don't care about the canister (even though the EPA
>does).  The purge could be hooked up when necessary.
>
>The chryco distributer has a hall effect pickup that is prone to failure.
>I just carry a spare.  It has two pickups in it, one for injector sync and
>the other for spark.  It was mentioned to adapt a dist. from another
>vehicle.  How was the Dist in the Sunbirds?  I believe it was mounted on
>the head and driven by the cam.
>
>Of all the upgrades available, one quit modifying SBECS, another closed the
>business, MP will not pass emisions, and FM sells a $2200 complete
>conversion from FelPro (SpeedPro).  I wish to pass emissions when
>necessary, get better fuel economy, better performance and spend less $$$.
>
>Super 60 levels of performance in a streetable machine is desirable,
>however at this time, My goals are emissions first (have to test this
>year), and as much performance possible from a stock Turbo II 2.2L w/
>Intercooler with bolt on items like S60 (+40%) injectors, 3 Bar Map, etc.
>I already have the 2.5" exhaust to the rear.
>
>Also, a scan tool is no problem as I have the Snap-on MT2500 I 'borrowed'
>from my brother.
>
>Thanks for the Info.  Anyone have an ECM and complete wiring wiring harness
>w/ sensors and relays available from a 87-90 Turbo Sunbird?
>
>Thanks for the input!
>Tom McCabe
>
>At 11:28 PM 01/28/2000 -0500, Thomas Matthews wrote:
>>I looked into this when I had a Mopar...
>>1. Ignition is questionable, but if you used the GM module, I think it
would
>>work- the Mope is magnetic. This part of my research I did not finish.
>>The Mopar dist from the mid-late 80's is a piece of crap IMHO, with some
>>machine work you may be able to adapt something better.
>>2 No way around this one... TPS should work though.
>>3. It is really easy to adapt a CryCo external regulator to take over for
>>the SBEC- I did it on my car.
>>4. True- MP, Forward Motion, and someone else (can't remember the name
>>offhand) have upgrades, but for a custom app the GM ECM is perfect as it's
>>already hacked, I was planning to go with a 749 in my project before I
sold
>>it.
>>What are you going for- Super 60 type performance or something more?
>>Tom
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Programmer" <nwester@eidnet.org>
>>To: <gmecm@diy-efi.org>
>>Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 10:39 AM
>>Subject: Re: Adapting GM ECM to Chrysler Turbo
>>
>>
>>> I'll give you a little discouragement...but maybe you're up for the
>>> challenge.
>>>
>>> 1. Ignition will be difficult to adapt.
>>> 2. You'll need to use all the GM sensors and harness, relays, etc...
>>> 3. Charging system is different--SBEC controlled.
>>> 4. Depending on SBEC, you can already get a performance chip done.
>>>
>>> Lyndon.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Thomas McCabe <mccabet@mediaone.net>
>>> To: gmecm@diy-efi.org <gmecm@diy-efi.org>; gmecm@diy-efi.org
>>> <gmecm@diy-efi.org>
>>> Date: January 27, 2000 10:10 PM
>>> Subject: Adapting GM ECM to Chrysler Turbo
>>>
>>>
>>> >Good Day,
>>> > I have been monitoring this list as well as the DIY-EFI lists and am
>>> >amazed at the information that is available on the GM ECMs.  Since
there
>>is
>>> >little known of the Chrysler ECMs, I have decided to investigate
adapting
>>a
>>> >GM ECM into my Turbo vehicles.  Now comes the questions...
>>> >
>>> >1) Which ECM should I use and what vehicles have it?
>>> >
>>> >2) I intend to use a 3 Bar MAP and +40% injectors, can anyone help me
>>with
>>> >a base line cal table for a 2.2L Intercooled engine?
>>> >
>>> >3) Can I use a Hall Effect distributer with the GM ECM so I can keep
the
>>> >factory distributer?
>>> >
>>> >I am a S/W engineer with H/W experience.  I know the chrysler ECMs
rather
>>> >well as to their operation as a black box.  I know little of the
insides.
>>> >Any help in this conversion would be appreciated greatly!
>>> >
>>> >Thank You!
>>> >Tom McCabe
>>> >mccabet@mediaone.net
>>> >
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