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I doubt he'll be writting me back, so this probably
is the final comment.
I just find it interesting how some folks skate
around things.
I'd sure like to know if there was any truth to
the rumors that:
1)The guy behind Kalmaker (or a close friend), used
to work for GM.
2)He left for lunch one day with a arm full of GM
hardware
Wouldn't that me a giggle
Bruce
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: Kalmaker software
Please Bruce , stop this agro,
Not arguing, just stating fact, there is a
difference
You have an awful hangup with the money side of
things.
You sir have the money hang up. What I do
is free, not for profit, can you say the same?. If not then, you've got
the money hang up....
Please I'm not trying to sell you any thing, but
as you suggest I'm not about to give it away.
If it was more reasonably priced, you'd sell alot
more of them. Then why are you writting me?, oh that's right
you want free info from me soo you can make a profit, gee, wonder why I feel
insulted?...
I simply wrote you explaining a system that we are using
which may be of interest to you. I didnt actually mean you might be interested
in buying, but that you maybe interested in the workings of it seeing that
thats what you're into, but all you've managed to do is slag the absolute crap
out of it and me. I thought you may like to ask some questions
etc.
guestions about what?. Your web page pretty
well described the system, just that it also left out the sytems short
comings, which you still ignore, and won't comment about.
I normally wouldnt have replied to your first reply simply
branding you as a tosser, but as our software is not just the usual GM
standard adjustable stuff, I thought I'd give you another go, but now
you've even slammed me for that.
You're misinterpreting things. If you dont want to look ,
listen, learn, then thats your problem.
If I misinterpreted something please then tell me
what?.
Oh, and remember the original letter was about
looking for information that you wanted me to give you. Your smoke
screen is too thin to hide behind.
To me it doesnt matter how much one already knows ,
there's still plenty to learn, and I'm sure there would have been 1 or 2
things of interest to you.
Such as?.
I've read about Kalmaker for several years now,
and about all it's claims. It was even taken off of the market for a
while which left all it's users high and dry.
No one has tried more then I to learn about
ecms/pcms/tcms, then I. I have to read things numerous times
to learn something, so while you might dismiss me as being ignorant
about Kalmaker, I might now a whole lot more about it then you
think....
Most of the people in the USA that have Kalmaker Street Pro
2 and also the others there that ask me about it are astounded by it and they
use all soughts of software that you mention, which they are able to compare
with, so I do get to see quite abit of it and get feedback about others. I'm
always on the lookout for new good software.
Sorry to have bothered you.
Can I have a few email addresses then?.
Maybe they are astonded because they happen to be short on information about
their options!!!.
No bother, feel free to write at anytime, when
you have a new and improved system, or truely want to learn something.
Oh, BTW here in the states the 165
has been updated several times due to it's high failure rate, the 1227730 is a
much better option.
Even that won't correct your retail
sales prices, thou
Too bad the States Distributor deal
fell thru.
Sincerely
Bruce
Goodbye
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 9:55
PM
Subject: Re: Kalmaker software
****You wrote me,
remember****.
I looked what **you** had to offer, and
just compared the info **you** supplied to the info I have on hand. If
you want me to know more about it, send me a setup to play with. Oh,
that's right you contributions stop with the $$$$$$$$. Oh
well. For getting snide with you comments, if you don't want to
discuss things, fine, see if I care.
If you're not open to critisism, that
even tells me more about how you look at times. Maybe your used to
dealing with some folks that don't know what options are available, and they
have to hang on your sage advise, which is fine, but don't get in a huff
with me over, me not wanting to write a check for $600, to buy your
system. Calm down, and take a close look at things, and you might be
alot more objective. See, you looking at it with your ego all twisted
around the $$$ side of it. Personally I don't care two hoots about
which system I use, since I have a selection, I can be indepentent in what I
*want* to use. You'd perfer that ever EFIer in the world would sent
you money, I have no steak in any of it. I get no kick backs from
Tunercat, GMEPro, or TTS. I can use anything I want and
recommend what works or doesn't work with worring about what I say.
Well, have fun,
Cheers
Bruce
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 9:22
AM
Subject: Re: Kalmaker software
Bruce , I've seen Tunercat and GMEPRO. I dont critisise
others, but you have sentenced Kalmaker without a trial, which says alot
about your DIY EFI mob. You'd be surprised if you looked ...........chalk
and cheese.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000
11:07 PM
Subject: Re: Kalmaker
software
I'm a little confused here as at first I thought I
was contributing to you.
I don't see where or how
I think there must be some confusion here and I will
try and clear it up.
Kalmaker Street Pro 2 was released approx 5 years
ago and was/is intended for single users ie individuals, and this is
the version I'm referring to, and its present price is $1000
Australian which is under $600 US which includes modified ECM. There
is very little available in the US under $2000 US that comes within a
Bulls roar of Kalmaker.
No offence or "mines better than yours"
intended
I can buy tunercat for $100, and an
emulator for $150, and do about the same as your $600 outfit.
250 vs 600, that's alot of money to me.
I think you may have heard of the professional
version of Kalmaker called DynoCal. This was approx $25000 but
included all sorts of equipment and software for several models all in
one. It certainly was very expensive and most people treated it the
same way as you except for the serious. It was also owned by a big Co.
not the guy that writes it, that has since changed .
I have seen some and read about some of the software
you are possibly referring to in the US, and you mention it being
transferable from ecm to ecm. Please this is not a competition. Please
understand I'm not trying to argue, but as you are probably aware the
software is different from ecm to ecm and pcm, some of it may be
transferable , but Kalmaker is Full on software in the fact it
includes everything the factory includes in each individual ecm/pcm
(as they all have different capabilities)plus quite a lot of extra
fancy bits . Therefore each program is ecm specific.
Your's takes a modified ecm, that makes
it specific as I see it. Using and editor and emulator means
that an individual can use it on any say 90-92 (v-8) Camaro vette or
firebird.
The guy that writes it doesn't do it to be
king, he does it because (apart from being a total nut) he is totally
enthralled and fascinated with it all ( probably in a similar way to
you) and is a petrolhead from way back. He has spent the last several
years totally devoted to writing this with no other income.
He's lucky being able to make an income
doing what he likes to do.
I feel privileged we have guys like him on this
planet. It doesn't bother me whether he is Australian , American or
Iranian, the point is there is someone making it very easy for me to
reprogram (some)( at this point of time) Delco computers perfectly to
suit very customized engines and this is what I thought I was
contributing to you. I certainly wasn't having a go at
you.
Offering to sell me something is no
contribution. That's marketing.
I have a full hac, of the 808, so while
for the moment I can't do on the fly changes, I'm $600 richer.
If I was to use a 165 with my "system", I can get a spare ecm at the
wreckers for $40, if one should fail.
So when you say Kalmaker falls to,not even in the
running for price and function, I don't quite understand what you
mean.
Way too expensive. As I understand
it, you real big claim to fame is using the ALDL port for hook
up. The other way isn't as pretty. This is no issue
to me. For the money my works just fine thank you. There
are some hac's floating around on the need, the formulaes are
available, eprom emulators cost $150. So actually with a
spare memcal, and emulator, you can do the changes. Just not
packaged as pretty as yours.
When you mention prototype on the fly, that is what
I call real-time, as in when you change fuel or spark etc in laptop
the engine responds exactly at that moment seamlessly with no jumps or
hiccups. Please read my Tuning tips in the Kalmaker section of my web
page.
I hear what you're saying about the EFI community
and about helping people for free. I cant remember whether it was on
your page or the ECMGUY's page where it mentioned a great software
package for only $2000
I haven't a clue about what mention of
what $2000 system you mean. Tunercat stuff is about $100 for the
first editor, and $20 for each different application after that.
GMEPRO is $200, and the Turbo Shop stuff is $350. Then there is
the the freeware stuff, that's scattered about.
and yet you slam ours thats only $600 to you.
As I say I thought I was contributing to you. I help EFI guys get what
they want.
The one thing I try to promote in the EFI industry
is friendliness and help. I certainly do not try to be an
elitist .
There is a difference between offering a service,
and contibuting, IMHO
Bruce
Please feel free to email with any questions or
help
Regards
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000
9:36 AM
Subject: Re: Kalmaker
software
Hi Bruce, I was quite fascinated with your site
and the work that has gone into it. I dont have alot of experience
on hacking, as when I first started 5 or 6 years ago I found a
recent sotware package just released then called
Kalmaker.
Recent 5-6 years ago, or are you
talking about kalmaker being rereleased?.
You may have heard of it. It is Australian and
back then it was for only our local ecm which is similar to the
1227165.
I was running a 400 Chev with TPI fitted running
the 1227165 with MAF meter which needed
reprogramming.
It was very easy to convert to MAP sensor and
run this new Kalmaker software with what I had.
After using it I realised its worth as it is 3
packages in 1.
First its written in Plain English with easily
adjustable bars etc( no Hex), second, in a way it is an emulator
and 3rd it is in Real Time.
To this day I havent seen anything else like it.
This is the reason I dont know much Hex .
The major drawback with it as far as you guys
would be concerned is (as yet) it doesnt suit your model ecm and
pcm's.
It is perfect for Hot rods or street machines or
engine transpalnts in general.
Here in the states we have several prom editor
vendors, and with anyone of them and a prom emulator we can do
about real time emulation. Prototype on the fly ecm specific
hardware/ software is under evaluation. Which all is much
cheaper the Kalmaker, and is transferable from ecm to ecm.
So Kalmaker falls to, not even in the running for price and
function.
Since those days I have become the Distributor
of the Kalmaker "Street Pro 2" package and I will put my web
address at the bottom of this email.
I have a major update coming in the next 2 weeks
approx with all the latest info.
Hope it goes well for you, Kalmaker
has burnt it's bridge with me thou. After all the noise they
rasied at DIY_EFI several years ago, they are less then
thieves, IMHO.
One of our projects at the moment which you may
be able to help me with is, we are adapting the DIS coil pak
ignition from the S10 4 cyl Chev on to import Jap turbo engines.
This ignition module has the same 4x interface wiring as the TPI
engines etc do ie Ref Hi, Ref Lo, Bypass, and EST. All our
Australian models use this as well, meaning that the module itself
has the smarts to work out which coil to fire, whereas with some
models the smarts are in the ecm/pcm itself and the crank sensor
is wired straught to the ecm.
Why would I want to help you?.
I'll do all I can for someone that CONTRIBUTES
to EFI society, but in your case you come out of the wood work
asking for help to help to make money, Hahahaha.....
This leads to where I'm heading, I have been
looking for a V8 version of this which led me to the LT 5
Corvette, which has exactly what I want. Then I found the info on
the diy efi gm ecm page showing the manuals tec which was
fantastic, except for the price of the all the parts required.
Ouch.!
Do you know of any other V8 modules similar to
this.
If I did, why would I want to help
you?.
The Cadillac Northstar uses one but thats all i
know. Where could I found out more info on this?
GM shop manual?.
The beauty of the LT 5 system is also with the
crank trigger which is very basic as with the S10.
Some units have a very difficult to reproduce
crank trigger.
Any help on this matter would be much
appreciated.
I'm sure it would be.
This all means that if all this works we can run
the LS 1, LT 1 etc or Fords or whatever very easily on our
16176424 PCM which we also have the
software to totally recalibrate the 4L60E trans as
well.
I have done several TPI's with 4L60E trans with
low gears and its fascinating reprogramming all the shift points,
line pressures, shift times and TCC lockups. Theres lots to learn
but you can concentrate on how the software/hardware works and not
have to learn all the hex addresses etc on top of
that.
ps we hope to have the full software for the LS
1 in approx 12 months as we now use this engine here in Oz
too.
Feel free to write me at any time
after you decide to become a contributing member of the EFI
community. As for making a buck from others work, again good
luck.
If you care to subscribe to the gmecm
or DIY_EFI, lists feel free to ask me for help, if you decide to
contribute to the effort. Course takers usually don't really
want to help anyone.
HTH
Bruce
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